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Discussion Groups / ESL Teaching / December 2003a wool / woollen coat
Greetings, this time my problem is unawareness of the difference between the two collocations mentioned in the topic. Do they really differ in meaning? Best wishes, Mike Not really. You can use the word "wool" as an adjective instead of "woollen". The usage is more American than English but everyone would understand what you meant, >Greetings, this time my problem is unawareness of the difference between the >two collocations mentioned in the topic. Do they really differ in meaning? >Best wishes, Mike ************************************* My webpage http://user1951.tripod.com/friends.htm updated 14 10 2003 You can contact me using yahoo messenger **** or ICQ 87147116 **** |"mike morgan" wrote: | >Greetings, this time my problem is unawareness of the difference [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] | "woollen". The usage is more American than English but everyone would | understand what you meant, Although in general use this is correct, there may be specific areas where the meaning is different, for example in the legal description of articles for sale, where to be described as "wool" the article must be greater than a certain percentage of wool, but "wool(l)en would refer to an article containing some wool but less than that required to be described as "wool". Owain > Although in general use this is correct, there may be specific areas where > the meaning is different, for example in the legal description of articles [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Owain That's interesting! So, let me understand... Does it mean that if I see "woollen" on the tag of a sweater in a shop, that sweater *might* be made with wool and somethng else, id est mixed fibers, while a "wool" sweater is positively made of wool and only wool?  SignatureEnrico C Do Something Amazing Today Save a Life, Give Blood | Owain | misc.education.language.english | > Although in general use this is correct, there may be specific areas [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] | be made with wool and somethng else, id est mixed fibers, while a | "wool" sweater is positively made of wool and only wool? Yes, if that is what the legislation in that area defines; I've tried to find concrete examples but the best I can are: The description "wool" is an effective selling point when applied to textiles. Despite the decline in the textile industry in West Yorkshire, many local manufacturers still produce wool and woollen products. This local connection is the reason for the Service taking a national lead in the testing of textiles. http://www.westyorks.trading-standards.org.uk/ctheservice.htm#c The Goods (Trade Descriptions) Act 1971 provides for various textile and footwear goods to be comprised of specified materials, and labelled as such. The items covered include shoes, slippers and sandals; natural and artificial textiles; yarns, threads and lace; carpets; clothing; and the labelling of woollen and wool blend textiles and garments. http://www.justice.tas.gov.au/newca/products/legislation.htm#goods It's a bit like the difference between fruit juice, fruit squash and fruit drink. They may be used interchangeably in casual use but they have a slightly stricter meaning when applied as descriptions to goods for sale. Owain Enrico C <enrico.c@spamcop.net> wrote on 24 Dec 2003: >> Although in general use this is correct, there may be specific >> areas where the meaning is different, for example in the legal [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > *might* be made with wool and somethng else, id est mixed fibers, > while a "wool" sweater is positively made of wool and only wool? Owain said, and I agree, that the laws require at least a certain percentage of the garment to be made of wool before it is legally allowed to be called "wool". That doesn't necessarily imply 100% wool. In fact, "100%" is a selling point, as is the word "virgin" in "100% virgin wool", none of which may be shorn from a human virgin, by the way, nor need be shorn from chaste sheep. So, it all depends on the rules that define what may be called "wool": sometimes "wool" (as in "recycled wool") may contain cotton. SignatureFranke: EFL teacher & medical editor. > allowed to be called "wool". That doesn't necessarily imply 100% wool. Hmm... A hundred percent wool garment is said "Pure Wool", I guess, while "Pure Virgin Wool" is 100% and doesn't have any recycled wool in it, right? > In fact, "100%" is a selling point, <snip> > So, it all depends on the rules that define what may be called "wool": > sometimes "wool" (as in "recycled wool") may contain cotton. Wait a minute, are you saying that "Pure wool" (not "Virgin"), might be not really 100 percent sheep's own, so to speak? :-/ SignatureEnrico C Do Something Amazing Today Save a Life, Give Blood Enrico C <enrico.c@spamcop.net> wrote on 24 Dec 2003: >> allowed to be called "wool". That doesn't necessarily imply 100% >> wool. [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > Wait a minute, are you saying that "Pure wool" (not "Virgin"), > might be not really 100 percent sheep's own, so to speak? :-/ What I'm saying is that, in the USA, where manufacturers are required to list the content of their fabric by name and percentage, the labels will read "100% virgin wool", "100% wool" (but not "pure wool", as far as I know, because there really is no such thing as "pure" wool), "n% recycled wool" (in which case, it may contain a certain percentage of cotton, according to federal regulations --- but finding out all that stuff is too much work and time for me, so you'll have to check it out yourself). There are all kinds of rulea dn regulations and every country has different ones, it seems. SignatureFranke: EFL teacher & medical editor. |
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