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Discussion Groups / ESL Teaching / November 2003Writing Level (x-posted) (SLieber please read)
Reposting to get opinions only on the writing. Posted to Uk.teachers even though this is an American asking. The student is 7. Hello to S. Lieber... Haven't seen you in me lately. I don't want to talk about the controversial part of the post my friend made, but to get an assessment of the writing level of the child who wrote this. Her dad says: Now I do not know what kind of writing you expect in 2nd grade so I copied one of her 15 minute essays where she could pick the subject unedited including her spelling and punctuation with names xxxxed out And one clarification added in parenthesis. Karate Karate is very fun to me. In Karate there are less girls than boys because Karate is mostly stuff where girls believe you get hurt if you are not strong enough. But I think this is nonsense. I like to spar because it's fun. In XXXs tournament I kicked a boy out of the ring and my dad had to catch him. My dream about Karate is to get my black belt and to never quit and win a gold medal in the Karate Olympics. My favorite person to spar is xxxxxxt. Inbetween classes I like to "beat up" my friend xxxx (he is one of the teen helpers). I have never missed a tournament. Her dad says: Well I would like an opinion how that writing would stack up for 2nd grade. -- Dorothy There is no sound, no cry in all the world that can be heard unless someone listens .. The Outer Limits > Karate > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > (he is one of the teen helpers). I have never missed a > tournament. I'd put that at Level 3, which is what is expected of an average child in the 8th semester. Description of Level 3: "Pupils' writing is often organised, imaginative and clear. The main features of different forms of writing are used appropriately, beginning to be adapted to different readers. Sequences of sentences extend ideas logically and words are chosen for variety and interest. The basic grammatical structure of sentences is usually correct. Spelling is usually accurate, including that of common, polysyllabic words. Punctuation to mark sentences - full stops, capital letters and question marks - is used accurately. Handwriting is joined and legible." Adrian (UK) >> Karate >> [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] >I'd put that at Level 3, which is what is expected of an average child in >the 8th semester. I'm confused since I am in the US.. 8th semester would be what age child? >Description of Level 3: "Pupils' writing is often organised, imaginative and >clear. The main features of different forms of writing are used [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > >Adrian (UK) Thanks for your response. -- Dorothy There is no sound, no cry in all the world that can be heard unless someone listens .. The Outer Limits > >I'd put that at Level 3, which is what is expected of an average child in > >the 8th semester. > > > I'm confused since I am in the US.. 8th semester would be what age > child? I wrote 8th semester because I knew you were in the US! 7th/8th semester = 4th grade Adrian >> >I'd put that at Level 3, which is what is expected of an average child in >> >the 8th semester. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > >Adrian No she is in 2nd grade here. It's confusing I think to try to work out the difference between our systems. Sorry for my confusion. Here Kindergarten is 5 year olds, 1st is 6 year olds and 2nd is 7 year olds So then you are saying her writing is that of an average 4th grader here? That would a 9 year old child in the US. She has basically only been in school for 5 semesters. She is going into her 6th semester of school now. -- Dorothy There is no sound, no cry in all the world that can be heard unless someone listens .. The Outer Limits > So then you are saying her writing is that of an average 4th grader > here? That would a 9 year old child in the US. That's what I'm saying, though only on the basis of that one paragraph. Adrian >> So then you are saying her writing is that of an average 4th grader >> here? That would a 9 year old child in the US. > >That's what I'm saying, though only on the basis of that one paragraph. > >Adrian Thanks Adrian, that is very helpful. -- Dorothy There is no sound, no cry in all the world that can be heard unless someone listens .. The Outer Limits |
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