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Nox Qs - 14 May 2004 20:51 GMT
Hi!
today I was scolded in school (I am a teacher) for using the phrase "I
feel well" since it is forbidden to use an adverb after a sensory
verb, like feel.

However I still have the feeling that it is perfectly legitimate to
say "I feel well" meaning "I feel like I am in a good state of
health."

Native speakers opinion?

niox
Einde O'Callaghan - 14 May 2004 20:59 GMT
> Hi!
> today I was scolded in school (I am a teacher) for using the phrase "I
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>
> Native speakers opinion?

"Well" is also an adjective, usually used only predicatively - as an
adjective it means "in good health".

It's use is very common, e.g. as a response to the greeting "How are
you?" - "I'm very well, thank you."

Who criticised you - your pupils or other teachers? In either case they
are talking rubbish.

Regards, Einde O'Callaghan (English teacher and native speaker)
Nox Qs - 15 May 2004 16:13 GMT
> > Hi!
> > today I was scolded in school (I am a teacher) for using the phrase "I
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>
> Regards, Einde O'Callaghan (English teacher and native speaker)

Thank you,

your response cleared my confusion right up. And it was a senior
teacher who was talking rubbish in this case.  :-)

Niox
Django Cat - 14 May 2004 21:56 GMT
> Hi!
> today I was scolded in school (I am a teacher) for using the phrase "I
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>
> niox

Yup, 'I feel well' is fine.

> since it is forbidden to use an adverb after a sensory
> verb, like feel.

is it?  Well, I can think of other examples like "I feel poorly"... "She
listens carefully"...  You'll have to give us some examples of how this is
seen to be wrong.  What do you think Einde?

Django
Einde O'Callaghan - 14 May 2004 22:39 GMT
>> Hi!
>> today I was scolded in school (I am a teacher) for using the phrase "I
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> listens carefully"...  You'll have to give us some examples of how this
> is seen to be wrong.  What do you think Einde?

"Poorly" is an adjective like "well", but in "I felt carefully under the
chair" "carefully" is an adverb describing the manner in which "I felt
under the chair", just as "I listened carefully" describes the manner in
which "I listened".

Regards, Einde O'Callaghan
Nox Qs - 17 May 2004 22:05 GMT
> > Hi!
> > today I was scolded in school (I am a teacher) for using the phrase "I
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>
> Django

Just a couple of examples to clarify what I meant. There are a couple
of sensory verbs: seem, feel, sound, taste, smell, after which one is
not supposed to use an adverb, but rather an adjective as in the
following examples:

Your horse looks good.
That sounds great.
The soup tasted wonderful.
I feel well.  :-) (where well is the adjective meaning in good health)

Niox
Einde O'Callaghan - 17 May 2004 22:51 GMT
>>>Hi!
>>>today I was scolded in school (I am a teacher) for using the phrase "I
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> The soup tasted wonderful.
> I feel well.  :-) (where well is the adjective meaning in good health)

However most of these verbs can also be used to describe actions and in
this sense they can be modified by adverbs:

He looked carefully at the horse's teeth.
The tuba sounded loudly in his ear.
He tasted the soup noisily.
He felt the material carefully.

Regards, Einde O'Callaghan
Enrico C - 15 May 2004 01:03 GMT
> Hi!
> today I was scolded in school (I am a teacher) for using the phrase "I
> feel well" since it is forbidden

"Forbidden". Funny expression to use for language ;)

> to use an adverb after a sensory
> verb, like feel.
>
> However I still have the feeling that it is perfectly legitimate to
> say "I feel well" meaning "I feel like I am in a good state of
> health."

I like that sentence very well indeed! :)


> Native speakers opinion?

Sorry, I am not.

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Einde O'Callaghan - 15 May 2004 05:00 GMT
>>Hi!
>>today I was scolded in school (I am a teacher) for using the phrase "I
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> I like that sentence very well indeed! :)
>  
This "well" is an adverb. But native speakers would probably use "very
much" in this context.

Regards, Einde O'Callaghan
Owain - 15 May 2004 11:23 GMT
| > I like that sentence very well indeed! :)
| This "well" is an adverb. But native speakers would probably
| use "very much" in this context.

I think usage has changed in the last few decades. Grandfather might say
"that dress looks well on you" whereas most people today would say "that
dress looks good on you".

My feeling is "I feel good" could be making a moral statement (good | bad)
whereas "I feel well" is more clearly health-related (well | ill , wellness
| illness).

Owain
Django Cat - 15 May 2004 14:19 GMT
> | > I like that sentence very well indeed! :)
> | This "well" is an adverb. But native speakers would probably
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> "that dress looks well on you" whereas most people today would say "that
> dress looks good on you".

That's still very common usage in dialects here in the NW of England.

> My feeling is "I feel good" could be making a moral statement (good |
> bad)
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>
> Owain

'How are you?'
'Good.'

Is getting very common in BrE too.

cheers
DC
Irving R - 15 May 2004 17:19 GMT
>| > I like that sentence very well indeed! :)
>| This "well" is an adverb. But native speakers would probably
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>
>Owain

I think what made the original poster's his senior teacher confused
was the use of 'well' and 'good' in the example citied above.

The usage of well in "That dress looks well on you" is throught to be
wrong by many grammarians because 'well' when used as an adjective'
means 'healty'. Therefore, 'well' should be replaced by 'good' as in
"That dress looks good on you."

Once you get so uptight about the misuse of 'well', one can over-react
to any use of 'well' as in "I am well."

IR
 
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