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Discussion Groups / British English / March 2010Definite article before a band's name?
A friend of mine used the phrase "Worship and Music by 13 A.D." Here 13 A.D. is the name of the band. Shouldn't it be "Worship and music by the 13 A.D. ? At 09:54:55 on Sat, 13 Feb 2010, Paul <paulmathewmac@gmail.com> wrote in <4df13e12-3ea2-4b21-97ef-b37108e45149@z10g2000prh.googlegroups.com>: >A friend of mine used the phrase "Worship and Music by 13 A.D." Here >13 A.D. is the name of the band. Shouldn't it be "Worship and music by >the 13 A.D. ? No. The band's name is its name, and may or may not include the definite article, depending on what the band decided its name should be. Therefore, "The Beatles" and "The Shadows", but "Marmalade" and "Orchestral Manoeuvres in the Dark".  SignatureMolly Mockford Nature loves variety. Unfortunately, society hates it. (Milton Diamond Ph.D.) (My Reply-To address *is* valid, though may not remain so for ever.) >At 09:54:55 on Sat, 13 Feb 2010, Paul <paulmathewmac@gmail.com> wrote >in <4df13e12-3ea2-4b21-97ef-b37108e45149@z10g2000prh.googlegroups.com>: [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >be. Therefore, "The Beatles" and "The Shadows", but "Marmalade" and >"Orchestral Manoeuvres in the Dark". Indeed. The name of a band is no different in that respect from a person's name. One would not say "This CD features songs by the John Lennon". SignatureJohn Hall "Acting is merely the art of keeping a large group of people from coughing." Sir Ralph Richardson (1902-83) >At 09:54:55 on Sat, 13 Feb 2010, Paul <paulmathewmac@gmail.com> wrote in ><4df13e12-3ea2-4b21-97ef-b37108e45149@z10g2000prh.googlegroups.com>: [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >Therefore, "The Beatles" and "The Shadows", but "Marmalade" and >"Orchestral Manoeuvres in the Dark". And who can forget The The. <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_The#Early_years_.281977.E2.80.931982.29> SignaturePhil C. At 20:04:16 on Sat, 13 Feb 2010, Phil C. <philsusenet@fsmail.net> wrote in <v51en5l8mp1e89lipnnuol0bolec921uht@4ax.com>: >>At 09:54:55 on Sat, 13 Feb 2010, Paul <paulmathewmac@gmail.com> wrote in >><4df13e12-3ea2-4b21-97ef-b37108e45149@z10g2000prh.googlegroups.com>: [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >And who can forget The The. ><http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_The#Early_years_.281977.E2.80.931982.29> I'd forgotten them - but I could never forget Them. ;-) SignatureMolly Mockford Nature loves variety. Unfortunately, society hates it. (Milton Diamond Ph.D.) (My Reply-To address *is* valid, though may not remain so for ever.) On Feb 13, 2:33 pm, Molly Mockford <nospamnob...@mollymockford.me.uk> wrote: > At 20:04:16 on Sat, 13 Feb 2010, Phil C. <philsuse...@fsmail.net> wrote > in <v51en5l8mp1e89lipnnuol0bolec921...@4ax.com>: [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > Nature loves variety. Unfortunately, society hates it. (Milton Diamond Ph.D.) > (My Reply-To address *is* valid, though may not remain so for ever.) Good name for a band "The Definite Article".... but it would mean that you were always on first. David In article <8a37ecbb-9cd8-4d7b-a43c-9094a9746e53@t34g2000prm.googlegroups.com>, >Good name for a band "The Definite Article".... but it would mean that >you were always on first. Unless "An Indefinite Article" were also on the bill. SignatureJohn Hall "Acting is merely the art of keeping a large group of people from coughing." Sir Ralph Richardson (1902-83) > In article > <8a37ecbb-9cd8-4d7b-a43c-9094a9746...@t34g2000prm.googlegroups.com>, [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > from coughing." > Sir Ralph Richardson (1902-83) And until the journos decided to drop all articles in titles. >A friend of mine used the phrase "Worship and Music by 13 A.D." Here >13 A.D. is the name of the band. Shouldn't it be "Worship and music by >the 13 A.D. ? Not normally. If "The" is part of the name of a band then it should be used: The Beatles, The Stone Roses, The Who; but: Guns and Roses, AC/DC, etc. However, if you add "band" to the name of the group then you can use "the": "Worship and Music by the 13 A.D. band" There is an American band called "Scissor Sisters". When it started performing in Britain journalists and presenters referred to it as "The Scissor Sisters". It took several months before they dropped the "The". SignaturePeter Duncanson, UK (in uk.culture.language.english) So when refering to the band 'The The', you could say "the The The band?" ;o) >So when refering to the band 'The The', you could say "the The The band?" >;o) T he, T he, T he. SignaturePeter Duncanson, UK (in uk.culture.language.english) >So when refering to the band 'The The', you could say "the The The band?" >;o) One might well say "the band The The". :) SignatureJohn Hall "Acting is merely the art of keeping a large group of people from coughing." Sir Ralph Richardson (1902-83) |
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