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Phil C. - 23 Nov 2011 16:21 GMT
I recall that on this very newsgroup exactly ten years ago (23 Nov,
2001) I established the Right to Ramble - i.e. the right of Old Gits to
post any old drivel to newsgroups. And to think, back then I was nobbut
a mere youngster flexing my rambling muscles.
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Molly Mockford - 23 Nov 2011 16:49 GMT
At 16:21:24 on Wed, 23 Nov 2011, Phil C. <philtrum@fsmail.net> wrote in
<7PWdnQbyGr8VgFDTnZ2dnUVZ8i6dnZ2d@bt.com>:

>I recall that on this very newsgroup exactly ten years ago (23 Nov,
>2001) I established the Right to Ramble - i.e. the right of Old Gits to
>post any old drivel to newsgroups. And to think, back then I was nobbut
>a mere youngster flexing my rambling muscles.

I remember, when I was a very mere teenage girl, saying to my friends:
"One day I'll tell people that I bought a packet of cigarettes and some
matches and still got change from a shilling - and they won't believe
me".

Now I am a wrinkled OAP with osteoarthritis, and I don't bother telling
people, because they wouldn't believe me.  But five Cadets cost
tenpence-ha'penny, and a book of matches were a penny (1d), so one got a
whole halfpenny coin in change.

I think that counts.
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Phil C. - 24 Nov 2011 15:21 GMT
> At 16:21:24 on Wed, 23 Nov 2011, Phil C. <philtrum@fsmail.net> wrote in
> <7PWdnQbyGr8VgFDTnZ2dnUVZ8i6dnZ2d@bt.com>:
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>
> I think that counts.

My grandmother could buy enough liquorice to skip with for 1d. She had
little idea that inflation meant that incomes incomes had also risen and
just thought that everything had got more expensive.

If I'm going to ramble, I'd best ramble on topic. So I will claim the
Right to Curmudge. We all know that language evolves but some things
just get to us. No reason - they just do. I can never hear the word
"pitcher" from an educated British English speaker without a shudder. I
don't mean the pitcher that we pour from - I mean the pitcher that we
look at on a wall. The "k" sound is now hardly ever heard. Even art
experts, academics, newsreaders etc talk about pitchers.

And another thing. What's this with thuh "thuh" before a vowel sound e.g
"thuh age of the thuh earth". I first noticed it from that posh
presenter bloke. Memory isn't what it was. Thank God for search engines.
His name is Ben Fogle. Since then it seems to crop up everywhere in the
media. That woman with a Spanish surname and too much mascara who
presents documentaries about the history of religion. That bloke who
recently did a documentary about the Dam Busters etc. I expect it from a
child learning to read but from a Brit adult it sounds a bit "special
needs" - as if the person's mind doesn't work fast enough to know that a
vowel sound is coming next. Those who use thuh "thuh" also sometimes use
the "thee" before a vowel. I don't know if they observe any rule or just
make it up as they go along.

And now it's time to put my feet up and have a nice cup of tea.
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