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Emphasising neologisms.

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Lee J. Moore - 16 Dec 2003 09:57 GMT
If, when writing a short story, I neologise, should I italicise the
neologism?

(And do pardon the neologism in the above sentence.  It was irresistable.)
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Apex - 16 Dec 2003 18:48 GMT
> If, when writing a short story, I neologise, should I italicise the
> neologism?

> (And do pardon the neologism in the above sentence.  It was irresistable.)

I am having trouble detecting the new word in the above. Other than a new
version of irresistible,  ;-)
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Peg
Lee J. Moore - 16 Dec 2003 20:19 GMT
>> If, when writing a short story, I neologise, should I italicise the
>> neologism?
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> I am having trouble detecting the new word in the above. Other than a new
> version of irresistible,  ;-)

Doh!  I neologised deliberately and by accident.  ;)  I didn't think
neologise was a word (it's not in any of my dictionaries), but a Google
revealed this:

       "And give the word neologism to our language, as a root, and it should
       give us it's fellow substantives, neology, neologist, neologisation; it's
       adjectives neologous, neological, neologistical, it's verb neologise, and
       adverb neologically."

Will there be no end to my embarrassment?  ;)
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masakim - 16 Dec 2003 20:59 GMT
> >> If, when writing a short story, I neologise, should I italicise the
> >> neologism?
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
>
> Will there be no end to my embarrassment?  ;)

There is no new thing under the sun.

From Dictionary.com Word of the Day (November 18, 2000):

The French word *neologisme*, from which the English is borrowed, is made up
of *neo-*, new + *log-*, word + *-isme*, -ism (all of which ultimately
derive from Greek).

A _neologist_ is one who introduces new words or new senses of old words
into a language; _neologistic_, or _neologistical_, describes that which
pertains to _neology_, which is the introduction of a new word, or of words
or significations, into a language; to _neologize_ is to coin or use
neologisms; and _neologization_ is the act or process of doing so.

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If you've ever heard yourself saying, "He was, I don't know, squidgeral," or
thought, "I wish there were a word for 'needing more than two hands to
operate,"' you are probably a closet neologist. Neologizing, the practice of
coining new words, may seem to be an arcane, specialized activity, but it's
everywhere -- and the skillful employment of neologism is what gives English
much of its verve. (Erin McKean, _The New York Times_, August 25, 2002)

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Regards,

masakim
Peter Duncanson - 16 Dec 2003 21:07 GMT
>>> If, when writing a short story, I neologise, should I italicise the
>>> neologism?
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
>
>Will there be no end to my embarrassment?  ;)

Not yet!

With -ize in place of -ise (always worth trying):
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?r=1&q=neologize

ne·ol·o·gize    ( P )  Pronunciation Key  (n-l-jz)
intr.v. ne·ol·o·gized, ne·ol·o·giz·ing, ne·ol·o·giz·es
To coin or use neologisms.

Source: The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth
Edition Copyright © 2000 by Houghton Mifflin Company.
Published by Houghton Mifflin Company. All rights reserved.

neologize

\Ne*ol"o*gize\, v. i. 1. To introduce or use new words or terms or new uses
of old words.

2. To introduce innovations in doctrine, esp. in theological doctrine.

Source: Webster's Revised Unabridged Dictionary, © 1996, 1998 MICRA, Inc.

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Apex - 16 Dec 2003 21:04 GMT
"Peter Duncanson" wrote in message

> >Will there be no end to my embarrassment?  ;)

We've all been there, done that, believe me. I checked and checked before
posting, in case I ended up being crimson.
No worries. Hope the short story writing goes well. :-)
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Peg
Apex - 16 Dec 2003 21:05 GMT
> "Peter Duncanson" wrote in message
>
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> --
> Peg

Ooops! See what I mean? Sorry Peter!
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Peg
don groves - 22 Aug 2004 23:52 GMT
> If, when writing a short story, I neologise, should I italicise the
> neologism?
>
> (And do pardon the neologism in the above sentence.  It was
> irresistable.)

I opinionise that it's up to you.
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dg
JunkyardBallerina - 23 Aug 2004 02:02 GMT
>From: don groves (.(@ dgroves ccwebster) net)
Lee J. Moore <lee@cafe-society.com>
>wrote:
>
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>--
>dg

Just be sure to put one of these  ©  next to it.
Doug C - 23 Aug 2004 16:08 GMT
> > If, when writing a short story, I neologise, should I italicise the
> > neologism?
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> I opinionise that it's up to you.
> --
It seems to me that a good neologism is one that enriches the language with
a word whose meaning would otherwise need a phrase to convey it. So I would
opine that 'neologise' is a good one, and 'opinionise' is not. Whether you
want to italicise it is indeed your choice, but Bill Shakespeare never did.

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John Briggs - 23 Aug 2004 17:18 GMT
>>> If, when writing a short story, I neologise, should I italicise the
>>> neologism?
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> Whether you want to italicise it is indeed your choice, but Bill
> Shakespeare never did.

How do we know that?
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Brian {Hamilton Kelly} - 23 Aug 2004 21:44 GMT
On Monday, in article
    <sNoWc.2235$G61.486@newsfe5-gui.ntli.net>

> > Whether you want to italicise it is indeed your choice, but Bill
> > Shakespeare never did.
>
> How do we know that?

And if he did, how can one be confident that such italicization is not
part of a Baconian biliteral cypher?

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Doug C - 23 Aug 2004 22:20 GMT
> On Monday, in article
>      <sNoWc.2235$G61.486@newsfe5-gui.ntli.net>
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> And if he did, how can one be confident that such italicization is not
> part of a Baconian biliteral cypher?

It is. It's all part of a William Cecil inspired plot that began when
Marlowe started a secret society for italicization of English.

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John Briggs - 23 Aug 2004 23:31 GMT
>> On Monday, in article
>>      <sNoWc.2235$G61.486@newsfe5-gui.ntli.net>
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> It is. It's all part of a William Cecil inspired plot that began when
> Marlowe started a secret society for italicization of English.

I thought it was John Florio and Raleigh's "School of Night" :-)
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