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Discussion Groups / British English / December 2003an 'operating theatre' or an 'operating-room'
How are you doing? Could you help me? When should we use the word combinations 'operating theatre' and 'operating-room'? What's the difference between them? Thank you. Timur Valois >How are you doing? > >Could you help me? When should we use the word combinations 'operating >theatre' and 'operating-room'? What's the difference between them? It is the Operating Room (no hyphen) in the United States. Otherpondians will supply their term, but I believe it's Operating Theatre over there. The only difference is the term used. << [Tony Cooper] It is the Operating Room (no hyphen) in the United States. Otherpondians will supply their term, but I believe it's Operating Theatre over there. The only difference is the term used. [end quote] >> I thought that "operating theatre" really was a small theatre, with three or four rows of seats for spectators elevated above the operating table. I suppose that they use cameras today. How long did the theatre system last or is it still going? -- --------------------------------------------- Richard Maurer To reply, remove half Sunnyvale, California of a homonym of a synonym for also. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ><< [Tony Cooper] >It is the Operating Room (no hyphen) in the United States. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >the operating table. I suppose that they use cameras today. >How long did the theatre system last or is it still going? I have been in several operating rooms in teaching institutions that were built in the theater style. Even in that case, though, the room is the Operating Room. I don't imagine any new facilities are built in this style. Closed circuit television has replaced the need. Those that watch "Seinfeld" know that there is at least one hospital (or set) with the theater style of construction left. > Those that watch "Seinfeld" know that there is at least one hospital > (or set) with the theater style of construction left. The infamous incident of the Junior Mint. | << [Tony Cooper] | It is the Operating Room (no hyphen) in the United States. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] | the operating table. I suppose that they use cameras today. | How long did the theatre system last or is it still going? There is an operating theatre, complete with rows of seats still in existance somewhere in the London, but it is only used as a museum and TV set nowadays. Dave F >I thought that "operating theatre" really was a small theatre, >with three or four rows of seats for spectators elevated above >the operating table. <snip> I think that is how the term originated, but in the UK it is now used for any room in which surgical operations are performed. The expression "operating room" is rarely used here.  SignatureJohn Hall "If a man will begin with certainties, he shall end in doubts; but if he will be content to begin with doubts, he shall end in certainties." Francis Bacon (1561-1626) >> I thought that "operating theatre" really was a small theatre, >> with three or four rows of seats for spectators elevated above [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > for any room in which surgical operations are performed. The > expression "operating room" is rarely used here. A bit theatrical, I'd say. SignatureSkitt (in Hayward, California) www.geocities.com/opus731/ > >> I thought that "operating theatre" really was a small theatre, > >> with three or four rows of seats for spectators elevated above the [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > used for any room in which surgical operations are performed. The > > expression "operating room" is rarely used here. > A bit theatrical, I'd say. Ooh! What a cutting remark! Signaturehttp://www.dacha.freeuk.com/gay/10-0.htm An old myopic owl, Perched high upon a tree... > > >> I thought that "operating theatre" really was a small theatre, > > >> with three or four rows of seats for spectators elevated above the [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Ooh! What a cutting remark! Just a stage he's going through. >> How are you doing? >> [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Otherpondians will supply their term, but I believe it's Operating > Theatre over there. The only difference is the term used. Yup. Often the 'Operating' is dropped. I was told I was 'going into Theatre tomorrow'. A surgeon will be unavailable because 'she is in Theatre'. 'Theatre Nurse' and 'Theatre Sister' are job titles. -- John Dean Oxford De-frag to reply >>How are you doing? >> [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Otherpondians will supply their term, but I believe it's Operating > Theatre over there. The only difference is the term used. Correct. They were called 'theatres' because they were set up, as some still are in teaching hospitals, with tiered seats so that students and other surgeons could observe surgical techniques. SignatureRob Bannister >Correct. They were called 'theatres' because they were set up, as some >still are in teaching hospitals, with tiered seats so that students and >other surgeons could observe surgical techniques. You sure? I would have thought the "theatre" aspect came from the meaning "where something takes place" as in "Theatre of Operations" (terrible pun) or "the Western Theatre" which has nothing to do with "The West End Theatre" as in Haymarket and Leicester Square. Jitze > >Correct. They were called 'theatres' because they were set up, as some > >still are in teaching hospitals, with tiered seats so that students and [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Jitze Sounds plausible, though I haven't dragged out Partridge, or double-checked OED's The Supplement, The Corrigenda, Spurious Words, or Books quoted. Also, thee- AY-ter, as in American-plays like "Oklahoma" eventually came to mean "cinema". Perhaps before. I understand that the [proposed] 3rd Ed. of the OED is now on to "N". Maybe I can afford it when it gets near "th...", in 2035? SignatureBest, Erick Andrews Happy New Year | >Correct. They were called 'theatres' because they were set up, as some | >still are in teaching hospitals, with tiered seats so that students and [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] | which has nothing to do with "The West End Theatre" as in | Haymarket and Leicester Square. Oh Ye of little faith. Here is a virtual tour of The Oldest Operating Theatre in Britain Complete with seats for four rows of students, and box for sawdust to soak up th blood. Not for the faint hearted. http://www.thegarret.org.uk/tour.htm The Operating Theatre (operating or emergency room) is found in the roof space of an English Baroque Church. At first glance this placement seems bizarre. But it makes more sense when it is realised that the wards of the South Wing of St. Thomas's Hospital were built around St. Thomas's Church. Dorcas was the women's surgical ward. Before 1822 the women were operated on in the ward - this must have caused some considerable distress. In 1815 the Apothecary's Act, which required apprentice apothecaries to attend at public hospitals, meant that hoards of students poured into watch <<< Ain't Google wonderfull. SignatureDave Fawthrop <dave@hyphenologist.co.uk> Killfile and Anti Troll FAQs at http://www.hyphenologist.co.uk/killfile. Some posters object to these FAQS and post lies about me :-( I wonder why? ;o) >>>How are you doing? >>> [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >still are in teaching hospitals, with tiered seats so that students and >other surgeons could observe surgical techniques. I have had many operations in several hospitals during the past 6 years. One was a large teaching hospital. In all cases the theatres were small rooms with just enough space for the equipment and the staff. Operations were recorded by TV cameras, and if medical students were watching, it was on remote TVs. Signaturewrmst rgrds Robin Bignall Quiet part of Hertfordshire England >>Correct. They were called 'theatres' because they were set up, as some >>still are in teaching hospitals, with tiered seats so that students and [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > were recorded by TV cameras, and if medical students were watching, it was > on remote TVs. I did say 'some'. It seems I am now hopelessly out of date and that all have been rebuilt. I still think it is the origin of the word, however. SignatureRob Bannister >>>Correct. They were called 'theatres' because they were set up, as some >>>still are in teaching hospitals, with tiered seats so that students and [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >I did say 'some'. It seems I am now hopelessly out of date and that all >have been rebuilt. I still think it is the origin of the word, however. It certainly is, and there are many illustrations and photos from the past of famous surgeons performing in front of audiences of music-hall size. But the hospitals that I go to (one private hospital is in a mid-Victorian building which has had much money lavished on it) all seem to have been restructured so that many small theatres can be packed into the space of one large one (much like modern cinemas) to cope with the operation load. Signaturewrmst rgrds Robin Bignall Quiet part of Hertfordshire England "Timur Valois" <fallen2000@mail333.com> wrote on 26 Dec 2003: > How are you doing? > > Could you help me? When should we use the word combinations > 'operating theatre' and 'operating-room'? What's the difference > between them? The difference is simple and easy to remember. Operating room is American usage and operating theatre is British usage. Beyond that, there is no difference. On the other hand, it may very well be that some American operating rooms are called "Operating Theater" (notice the /-er/ instead of the /-re/ because the surgery performed therein is televised for medical school classes or other reasons, but that usually is not an important fact in medical articles. SignatureFranke: EFL teacher & medical editor. |
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