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Discussion Groups / British English / January 2004help to translation
Hi, I have to translate a sentence from French into English for an artist's studio selling paintings, sculptures and others hand crafted items... (but I am not translator and English is not my native tongue!). The sentence to translate means that artists are producing artistic creations in front of customers and sell the works themself, direclty (It means: it is not an art gallery but just a studio where artists are selling their works). I hope it's clear... If I literally translate the sentence, I get: "Direct creation and sell by artists" Is this sentence correct and clear? (with regard to what is exlained above) If not, could someone help me to correct it? Thank you for your help. LB anonymous@antispam.fr spake thus: > Hi, > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > "Direct creation and sell by artists" How about "works of art direct from the artist". > Is this sentence correct and clear? (with regard to what is exlained above) > If not, could someone help me to correct it? > > Thank you for your help. Some of us here speak French - why don't you post the French version. And some more context would help - the suggestion you have given above is not a sentence, but a fragment.  SignatureDavid ===== Thank you for your advice. You say it is a fragment, but in French, it sounds like a fragment too (because it a sentence to write on an announcement, or to hang on a wall). Here is the French sentence: "Création et vente en direct par l'artiste" In French (I am French), it is not clear at 100%, that's why I have given a few explanations about the context in my previous post. You said, "Work of art direct from the artist": will everybody understand that the work is made and SOLD directly by the artist ? (an not by any go-between, agent or gallery). It is important. Thank you again. > anonymous@antispam.fr spake thus: > [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > And some more context would help - the suggestion you have given > above is not a sentence, but a fragment. >You said, "Work of art direct from the artist": will everybody understand >that the work is made and SOLD directly by the artist ? (an not by any >go-between, agent or gallery). It is important. In which case I'd suggested: "Works of art sold directly by the artist." Or, possibly slightly better: "Works of art bought directly from the artist." SignatureJohn Hall "Think wrongly if you please, but in all cases think for yourself." Doris Lessing anonymous@antispam.fr spake thus: > Thank you for your advice. You say it is a fragment, but in French, it > sounds like a fragment too (because it a sentence to write on an [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > that the work is made and SOLD directly by the artist ? (an not by any > go-between, agent or gallery). It is important. "Sold by the artist" might be all you need, as art is obviously created by an artist. Or you could add "produced: "Produced and sold by the artist". I'm waiting for others to provide better answers. > Thank you again. De rien. SignatureDavid ===== >If I literally translate the sentence, I get: >"Direct creation and sell by artists" >Is this sentence correct and clear? (with regard to what is >exlained above) >If not, could someone help me to correct it? LB, if I understand your intent I think you need to modify your notice to read: "Direct creation and sale by artists", although this seems to me to applaud the artists ability to be salespeople... Perhaps 'direct' is already implicit and therefore redundant leaving something closer to: "Creations sold directly by artists", this again points to the artist being a salesperson. "Artists creations for sale", this might be more useful as there isn't the emphasis on 'hard sell' I hope this is helpful Johnny >"Artists creations for sale", this might be more useful as there isn't the >emphasis on 'hard sell' But would need an apostrophe: "Artists' creations for sale." SignatureJohn Hall "Think wrongly if you please, but in all cases think for yourself." Doris Lessing > Produced and sold by the artist or > Works of art bought directly from the artist Thank you both for theses answers! I think it should be ok, but I would like to ask a last question: is it possible to render better the idea that the works are not only produced by the artist, but produced IN FRONT OF the customers, people, etc. (means: artists are working in the studio when people come to visit... Artists create works in front of people, and people interested can buy if they want). But perhabs this idea is clear enough in the sentences you suggested ? (my English is not good enough to make sure... forgive me). anonymous@antispam.fr spake thus: > Thank you for your advice. You say it is a fragment, but in French, it > sounds like a fragment too (because it a sentence to write on an [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > that the work is made and SOLD directly by the artist ? (an not by any > go-between, agent or gallery). It is important. "Sold by the artist" might be all you need, as art is obviously created by an artist. Or you could add "produced: "Produced and sold by the artist". I'm waiting for others to provide better answers. > Thank you again. De rien. SignatureDavid ===== >I think it should be ok, but I would like to ask a last question: is it >possible to render better the idea that the works are not only produced by >the artist, but produced IN FRONT OF the customers, people, etc. (means: >artists are working in the studio when people come to visit... Artists >create works in front of people, and people interested can buy if they >want). I think you'd have to make it a bit longer. "Watch artists at work, and buy direct from them" might do the trick. Actually, I'd prefer "...buy directly from them" but "buy direct" seems to have become perfectly acceptable now. SignatureMolly Mockford I think I've been too long on my own, but the little green goblin that lives under the sink says I'm OK - and he's never wrong, so I must be! (My Reply-To address *is* valid, though may not remain so for ever.) Thank to you all ! > >I think it should be ok, but I would like to ask a last question: is it > >possible to render better the idea that the works are not only produced by [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > directly from them" but "buy direct" seems to have become perfectly > acceptable now. |
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