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Discussion Groups / British English / February 2004Report into the BBC's favorite preposition
I wonder when the BBC first published, either in broadcast or in writing, the phrases "report into" and "study into".  SignatureQuentin Burward > I wonder when the BBC first published, either in broadcast or in writing, > the phrases "report into" and "study into". Never, I hope. You aren't giving us enough context: are report and study verbs or nouns? (Don't say "Yes"!) SignatureJohn Briggs >> I wonder when the BBC first published, either in broadcast or in >> writing, the phrases "report into" and "study into". > > Never, I hope. You aren't giving us enough context: are report and > study verbs or nouns? (Don't say "Yes"!) Why not? SignatureMike Stevens, narrowboat Felis Catus II web site www.mike-stevens.co.uk Old teachers never die, they simply lose their class. John Briggs at <john.briggs4@ntlworld.com> says in <brXSb.14865$JL4.121811@newsfep4-glfd.server.ntli.net>: >> I wonder when the BBC first published, either in broadcast or in writing, >> the phrases "report into" and "study into". > > Never, I hope. You aren't giving us enough context: are report and study > verbs or nouns? (Don't say "Yes"!) Yes. SignatureQuentin Burward > > I wonder when the BBC first published, either in broadcast or in writing, > > the phrases "report into" and "study into". > > Never, I hope. http://tinyurl.com/3272m http://tinyurl.com/27db3 Adrian Adrian Bailey at <dadge@hotmail.com> says in <Ca1Tb.10396$wH5.7143@news-binary.blueyonder.co.uk>: >>> I wonder when the BBC first published, either in broadcast or in writing, >>> the phrases "report into" and "study into". [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > http://tinyurl.com/3272m > http://tinyurl.com/27db3 Dear Adrian: You've excelled in your homework, so you may clean the whiteboard. But I still wonder when the BBC got into its habit of torturing "into". Was it in the 1970s? The 1980s? The 1990s? And I wonder which part of the world was the source of the BBC's habit, and what the BBC's "education" arm thinks of it. While writing this message I've heard "report into" uttered twice during readings of the news on the BBC's world-service radio. It's high time someone did a study of the habit and then wrote a report on that study. SignatureQuentin Burward > Adrian Bailey at <dadge@hotmail.com> says in > <Ca1Tb.10396$wH5.7143@news-binary.blueyonder.co.uk>: [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > readings of the news on the BBC's world-service radio. It's high time > someone did a study of the habit and then wrote a report on that study. There's something interesting going on here. "Report" and "study" are nouns (thanks, everyone, for telling me!), but the BBC are using "into" to suggest the verb, in a portmanteau way: "Hutton looked into and reported on..." ---> "The Hutton report into..." SignatureJohn Briggs > > Adrian Bailey at <dadge@hotmail.com> says in > > <Ca1Tb.10396$wH5.7143@news-binary.blueyonder.co.uk>: [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > whiteboard. But I still wonder when the BBC got into its habit of > > torturing "into". Was it in the 1970s? The 1980s? The 1990s? There is a new use of "into" on trains these days. "Ladies and gentlemen, we will shortly be arriving into Swindon. Swindon is your next station stop". And so it goes on until we arrive "into" London Paddington. It's not just one individual doing this as I have heard it on several occasions. It has also been mentioned by others in a railway newsgroup (uk.railway). Does this occur in other parts of the country or is it a specifically First Great Western thing - maybe drummed in during training ? Neil > I wonder when the BBC first published, either in broadcast or in writing, > the phrases "report into" and "study into". From the M&G Investments web site: "If you are investing into an ISA..." What is the Usenet representation of vomit? "OxSc" <a@b.c> wrote... > > I wonder when the BBC first published, either in broadcast or in > > writing, the phrases "report into" and "study into". [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > What is the Usenet representation of vomit? There's a distinction which it's possible you are too stupid to comprehend, though. To invest in an ISA is to start one up. To invest into an ISA includes increasing your savings in an existing ISA account. Hope this helps, Matti Matti Lamprhey typed thus: > "OxSc" <a@b.c> wrote... > > > I wonder when the BBC first published, either in broadcast or in [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > Hope this helps, Matti, a career as an independent financial advisor awaits you. SignatureDavid ===== "david56" <bass.c.voice@ntlworld.com> wrote... > Matti Lamprhey typed thus: > [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > Matti, a career as an independent financial advisor awaits you. Ouch! That was _infra beltum_. Matti > Matti Lamprhey typed thus: > [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > Matti, a career as an independent financial advisor awaits you. And apparently also as an independent financial adviser. Is the latter spelling obligatory, or only advisory? Perhaps someone can advise? SignatureJohn Briggs >> Matti, a career as an independent financial advisor awaits you. > >And apparently also as an independent financial adviser. Is the latter >spelling obligatory, or only advisory? Perhaps someone can advise? The Concise Oxford says: "adviser (also disp. advisor)... Usage: The variant form 'advisor' is fairly common, but is considered incorrect by some people. Its spelling is probably influenced by the adjective 'advisory'." (Where "disp." is short for "disputed".) SignatureJohn Hall You can divide people into two categories: those who divide people into two categories and those who don't >>> Matti, a career as an independent financial advisor awaits you. >> [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > (Where "disp." is short for "disputed".) That would be us :-) It isn't in my Shorter OED (3rd edition) at all. SignatureJohn Briggs > Matti Lamprhey typed thus: > [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > Matti, a career as an independent financial advisor awaits you. Merchant banker already, shurely? >"OxSc" <a@b.c> wrote... >> > I wonder when the BBC first published, either in broadcast or in [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] >To invest in an ISA is to start one up. To invest into an ISA includes >increasing your savings in an existing ISA account. It is possible that the author of the apparent horror had in mind the definition of on ISA (as given on that website): "An ISA is a tax free wrapper into which you can put various investments". An ISA is not in itself a fund for investing in. SignaturePeter Duncanson UK (posting from u.c.l.e) > "OxSc" <a@b.c> wrote... > [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > Matti When the context is "opening a new ISA", the site uses both "investing in" and "investing into". When "put more money into an existing ISA" is meant, the site uses the phrase "top up". |
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