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Discussion Groups / British English / February 2004The power of Word
On a webpage at <http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/ww2/VolunteerSiteGuides-Code> is this homily (between my pair of double angle-quotemarks): « It is good practise to spell check messages in a writing application such as Word before pasting them onto the site. »  SignatureQuentin Burward > On a webpage at <http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/ww2/VolunteerSiteGuides-Code> is > this homily (between my pair of double angle-quotemarks): [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Word before pasting them onto the site. > » s/check/cheque s/writing/righting s/site/sight Any more, for consistency's[1] sake? [1] I really, really wanted to spell that 'consistencies'. Giles. > > On a webpage at <http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/ww2/VolunteerSiteGuides-Code> is > > this homily (between my pair of double angle-quotemarks): [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > Giles. Yes, read this poem checked by a spell chequer: http://www.effingpot.com/fun/spelling.shtml >It is good practise to spell check messages in a writing application such as >Word before pasting them onto the site. That is unlikely to detect the error in the above sentence, though. As a noun, it should be "practice". Only the verb is spelt "practise". SignatureJohn Hall "He crams with cans of poisoned meat The subjects of the King, And when they die by thousands G.K.Chesterton: Why, he laughs like anything." from "Song Against Grocers" > >It is good practise to spell check messages in a writing application such as > >Word before pasting them onto the site. > > That is unlikely to detect the error in the above sentence, though. As a > noun, it should be "practice". Only the verb is spelt "practise". Except in the US, where they even spell the verb as "practice". Cheers, Tony SignatureTony Mountifield Work: tony@softins.co.uk - http://www.softins.co.uk Play: tony@mountifield.org - http://tony.mountifield.org John Hall at <nospam_nov03@jhall.co.uk> says in <zl7R5SE9n2IAFw$a@jhall.demon.co.uk>: >> It is good practise to spell check messages in a writing application such as >> Word before pasting them onto the site. Dear John, that ain't cricket. Those wayward words aren't _my_ words. I was _quoting_, and you carefully removed both the attribution and my quotemarks. Between my two @@@@@ rows, below, is an undoctored copy of the message <BC491034.29964%quentin@burward.com> that I posted with the aim of prompting competent and even entertaining discussion of the uselessness of most computerised spellcheck tools in view of the quoted sentence's two crimes against the universal conventions of written English, and perhaps a discussion of the BBC's command of language in either writing or speech. @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ On a webpage at <http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/ww2/VolunteerSiteGuides-Code> is this homily (between my pair of double angle-quotemarks): « It is good practise to spell check messages in a writing application such as Word before pasting them onto the site. » @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ > [. . .] My silly e-mail address doesn't work, so perhaps someone will use the present thread to tell me whether my double angle-quotemarks (traditional French guillemets) mutate into nonsense (guillemots or whatever) when they interact with some people's computers. SignatureQuentin Burward >John Hall at <nospam_nov03@jhall.co.uk> says in ><zl7R5SE9n2IAFw$a@jhall.demon.co.uk>: [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >Dear John, that ain't cricket. Those wayward words aren't _my_ words. I was >_quoting_, and you carefully removed both the attribution and my quotemarks. My apologies. That was careless of me. SignatureJohn Hall Weep not for little Leonie Abducted by a French Marquis! Though loss of honour was a wrench Just think how it's improved her French. Harry Graham (1874-1936) It certainly is. However, there is a difference in the spelling of 'practice' as a noun (which you used) and 'practise' as a verb. US spelling uses 'practise' for both. 'spell-check' should be hyphenated. Regards, Mike. > On a webpage at <http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/ww2/VolunteerSiteGuides-Code> is > this homily (between my pair of double angle-quotemarks): [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Word before pasting them onto the site. > » > It certainly is. > However, there is a difference in the spelling of > 'practice' as a noun (which you used) and 'practise' as a verb. > US spelling uses 'practise' for both. > 'spell-check' should be hyphenated. > Regards, Mike. Some of us 'do' irony. Are you unable so to do? >> On a webpage at <http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/ww2/VolunteerSiteGuides-Code> is >> this homily (between my pair of double angle-quotemarks): [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >> Word before pasting them onto the site. >> » Oh, and it's a politeness to observe the conventions of good netiquette. They have evolved for a reason. If you don't, some experienced posters will choose to add you to their kf so your words of wisdom may never be read. Mike at <mrteducation@btopenworld.com> says in <c06cuo$i8e$1@titan.btinternet.com>: > It certainly is. Perhaps that's true. > [. . .] SignatureQuentin Burward > It certainly is. > However, there is a difference in the spelling of > 'practice' as a noun (which you used) and 'practise' as a verb. > US spelling uses 'practise' for both. No, US spelling uses 'practice' for both. I wince every time I see the word 'practicing' in American text. Cheers, Tony SignatureTony Mountifield Work: tony@softins.co.uk - http://www.softins.co.uk Play: tony@mountifield.org - http://tony.mountifield.org > > It certainly is. > > However, there is a difference in the spelling of [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > No, US spelling uses 'practice' for both. I wince every time I see > the word 'practicing' in American text. So would an American, because it doesn't [usually] happen. The previous poster was correct: Merkins use "practise" for both the verb and noun. The word "practice" is unknown to them; similarly, "advice" never appears. (Also the piece of engineering/carpentery equipment known in BrEnglish as a "vice" appears in AmEnglish as a "vise" [and can, moreover, sometimes be used as a verb, which never happens in BrEnglish.) SignatureBrian {Hamilton Kelly} bhk@dsl.co.uk "We can no longer stand apart from Europe if we would. Yet we are untrained to mix with our neighbours, or even talk to them". George Macaulay Trevelyan, 1919 > > > It certainly is. > > > However, there is a difference in the spelling of [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > So would an American, because it doesn't [usually] happen. The previous > poster was correct: Merkins use "practise" for both the verb and noun. I stand by my original statement. http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=practice http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=practise (unfortunately, they also think "practise" can be a noun in BrE) There is no analogy with "license". Cheers, Tony SignatureTony Mountifield Work: tony@softins.co.uk - http://www.softins.co.uk Play: tony@mountifield.org - http://tony.mountifield.org "Brian {Hamilton Kelly}" <bhk@dsl.co.uk> wrote... > > > It certainly is. > > > However, there is a difference in the spelling of [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > "vise" [and can, moreover, sometimes be used as a verb, which > never happens in BrEnglish.) Sorry, Brian -- there's a huge swathe of America which uses "practice" for both verb and noun, and I've never come across any American who uses "practise" for both; some of them do it the correct British way. Matti bhk writes:<< The word "practice" is unknown to them; similarly, "advice" never appears. >> "Practice" as a noun is in common US use - Doctors and lawyers have a "practices," i.e. a business. And I would advise bhk to take my advice about this. Russ No situation is so bad that it cannot become worse. Russ > bhk writes:<< The word "practice" is unknown to them; similarly, "advice" never > appears. >> [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > this. > Russ We Americans spell it "practice" for the verb and the noun. "Advice" is a noun; "advise" is a verb. Vanya |
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