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Phil C. - 19 Jul 2004 21:02 GMT
I think I first came across "turned round and said" (or "turn round
and say") in the late 1980s. I don't know if it was new then or if
moving to a different part of the country brought me into contact with
it. It seemed to be the preserve of the inarticulate reporting or
predicting heated conversations - "He said to me... so I turned round
and said... and then he turned round and said....(etc etc) It sounded
very strange at first. I'm not sure if it was supposed to add drama to
a dull tale or give the speaker more time to recall the next part of
it - perhaps both.

Recently I've heard the expression used by two fairly RP-ish BBC
finanancial journalists in their reports. One of them was suggesting
that if the directors of a company were to take a certain course of
action then the shareholders would be likely to "turn round and
say...". She used it several times. I wonder how widespread it has
become and what it's now supposed to convey. Street cred?
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David Picton - 29 Jul 2004 12:27 GMT
> I think I first came across "turned round and said" (or "turn round
> and say") in the late 1980s. I don't know if it was new then or if
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> say...". She used it several times. I wonder how widespread it has
> become and what it's now supposed to convey. Street cred?

I thought I'd seen a discussion on this subject but Google couldn't
find it for me :-(

I've heard the expression quite frequently (I live in the West
Midlands), but I suspect that it's lost much of its meaning through
over-use.  (It also appears not to be specifically British, although
the US version usually seems to be 'to turn around and say'.)

I suspect that the original meaning was 'to make a sudden change of
opinion', particularly with a hypocritical or unreasonable motivation.
"The shareholders asked us to pursue an ethical investment policy, but
then turned round and said that the return on their investments would
be reduced if we sold our holdings in tobacco companies or the arms
industry. "
 
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