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chabral - 03 Dec 2004 11:26 GMT
Last night in our English class, a doubt arised:
Which is the difference in saying "arms" or saying "weapons".
Thanks in advance,

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chabral
John Mazor - 04 Dec 2004 05:03 GMT
> Last night in our English class, a doubt arised:
> Which is the difference in saying "arms" or saying "weapons".
> Thanks in advance,

In a general sense, there is little practical difference and you can use one
or the other.

However, "arms" often suggests weapons carried by an individual - sword,
pistol, rifle, grenade, anti-tank rocket, etc.  These are all weapons, but
"weapons" also includes artillery, long-range rockets, bombs, etc., that are
not, and cannot be, carried by an individual.

The term "armaments" encompasses all forms, and is functionally identical to
"weapons".
Enrico C - 04 Dec 2004 07:55 GMT
"John Mazor" <mazorj@erols.com> ha scritto:

>> Last night in our English class, a doubt arised:
>> Which is the difference in saying "arms" or saying "weapons".
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>"weapons" also includes artillery, long-range rockets, bombs, etc., that are
>not, and cannot be, carried by an individual.

So that famous sentence couldn't be "Arms of mass destruction", could it?
:-)


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Peter Duncanson - 04 Dec 2004 13:02 GMT
>"John Mazor" <mazorj@erols.com> ha scritto:
>>
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>So that famous sentence couldn't be "Arms of mass destruction", could it?
>:-)

:-) It could be.

"Weapons" seems to have a wider meaning than "arms".

"Arms" seems to be limited to weapons that have a physical effect.

The techniques of psychological warfare might be called "weapons", but are
less likely to be called "arms".

(I think.)

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Tom - 08 Dec 2004 01:29 GMT
Enrico C wrote...
> "John Mazor" <mazorj@erols.com> ha scritto:
>
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> :-)
>  

And the famous weapons race :)
and the right to bear weapons?

IMO, 'arms' suggests the overall capacity for destruction, whereas 'weapons'
refers to the specific implements used to do the job.
John Briggs - 08 Dec 2004 16:48 GMT
> Enrico C wrote...
>> "John Mazor" <mazorj@erols.com> ha scritto:
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> And the famous weapons race :)
> and the right to bear weapons?

No, no.  It's the right to arm and keep bears :-)
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Peter Duncanson - 08 Dec 2004 17:09 GMT
>> Enrico C wrote...
>>> "John Mazor" <mazorj@erols.com> ha scritto:
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>
>No, no.  It's the right to arm and keep bears :-)

For pity's sake! Aren't bears dangerous enough without their having
firearms?

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Enrico C - 08 Dec 2004 18:26 GMT
>>> Enrico C wrote...
>>>> "John Mazor" <mazorj@erols.com> ha scritto:
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>For pity's sake! Aren't bears dangerous enough without their having
>firearms?

Right! Bears should wear only bows and arrows!

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things, ok? Aristotle was not Belgian. The central message of Buddhism is
not Every Man For Himself. And the London Underground is not a political
movement. Those are all mistakes, Otto. I looked 'em up!"

Phil C. - 08 Dec 2004 20:40 GMT
>>>> Enrico C wrote...
>>>>> "John Mazor" <mazorj@erols.com> ha scritto:
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>
>Right! Bears should wear only bows and arrows!

They're allowed matchlocks, flintlocks and goldilocks.
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John Mazor - 09 Dec 2004 00:41 GMT
> > Enrico C wrote...
> >> "John Mazor" <mazorj@erols.com> ha scritto:
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> >>
> >> So that famous sentence couldn't be "Arms of mass destruction", could
it? :-)

> > And the famous weapons race :)
> > and the right to bear weapons?
>
> No, no.  It's the right to arm and keep bears :-)

I thought it was the right to keep and bare arms.  Why the Constitution
needs to protect my right to have my upper limbs intact upon my person, and
clothe them as I wish, is a mystery to me, but then, the exact meaning of
the Second Amendment always has been in dispute.
John Briggs - 09 Dec 2004 01:11 GMT
>>> Enrico C wrote...
>>>> "John Mazor" <mazorj@erols.com> ha scritto:
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> then, the exact meaning of the Second Amendment always has been in
> dispute.

Never mind the exact meaning, what do you make of the punctuation?
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John Mazor - 09 Dec 2004 03:33 GMT
> >>> Enrico C wrote...
> >>>> "John Mazor" <mazorj@erols.com> ha scritto:
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>
> Never mind the exact meaning, what do you make of the punctuation?

I went into a, uh, coma trying to parse that part.
John Briggs - 09 Dec 2004 17:15 GMT
>>>>> Enrico C wrote...
>>>>>> "John Mazor" <mazorj@erols.com> ha scritto:
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>
> I went into a, uh, coma trying to parse that part.

Are you sure it wasn't a comma?
:-)
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John Mazor - 10 Dec 2004 01:24 GMT
> >>>>> Enrico C wrote...
> >>>>>> "John Mazor" <mazorj@erols.com> ha scritto:
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> Are you sure it wasn't a comma?
> :-)

Precisely my point!

Another punctuational pun:

Mary had an aeroplane,
In it she loved to frisk,
Wasn't she a silly girl,
In it her *

Variants versions abound.
 
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