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Who'd heed 'hood HUD head had hoed, hawed, & hid his hod?

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T. Z. - 31 Dec 2004 08:00 GMT


(The sentense seems better with "his" in it)

The vowels I missed were Schwa, Barred i, and [a:] the
vowel in father&calm.

I don't think there's a word that's pronounced [ha:d]
in standard American English.

(Btw, [a] and [a:] are never contrastive, right?
I smell a linguistic anecdote.)

Maybe someone can make a longer sentence including
these, diphthongs, Heard, Hard, Horde, etc.
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hod
Etymology: probably from Middle Dutch hodde; akin to
Middle High German hotte cradle
1 : a tray or trough that has a pole handle and that
is borne on the shoulder for carrying loads (as of
mortar or brick)
2 : a coal scuttle
[hod illustration] http://m-w.com/mw/art/hod.htm



       
Areff - 31 Dec 2004 09:24 GMT
> I don't think there's a word that's pronounced [ha:d]
> in standard American English.

By Ray Wise's definition of standard AmE there is.  [ha:d] is "hide" in
Southern-accented AmE, "hard" in non-rhotic Eastern New England AmE, and
"hod" in Upper Midwestern AmE.

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Steny '08!

Peter T. Daniels - 31 Dec 2004 12:43 GMT
> (The sentense seems better with "his" in it)
>
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> (Btw, [a] and [a:] are never contrastive, right?
> I smell a linguistic anecdote.)

Length isn't phonemic in English generally. If there were two words
distinguished only by vowel length, it would turn out to be a
side-effect of something else, such as r-deletion or "voicing" of the
following obstruent.
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