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Erick Andrews - 18 Mar 2005 02:09 GMT
Just curious, are the 'pay and display' schemes still used in UK
carparks?

It's been a long time for me (States-side, now) but I remember
some blokes who would stick a few dozen on their cars to try
to cheat the system.  The 'theory' was, Rita-the-meter-maid would
give up looking for the current sticker:  it might take her longer
to find it before one returned to drive off.

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Paul Burke - 18 Mar 2005 09:59 GMT
> Just curious, are the 'pay and display' schemes still used in UK
> carparks?

Very much so. Though you've got to make sure everyone you display to is
over 16.

> It's been a long time for me (States-side, now) but I remember
> some blokes who would stick a few dozen on their cars to try
> to cheat the system.  The 'theory' was, Rita-the-meter-maid would
> give up looking for the current sticker:  it might take her longer
> to find it before one returned to drive off.

Look, you can get a ticket just for displaying the sticker on the wrong
window or upside-down, or for parking skewed in the bay. Rita, if she's
working for a private security firm paid by results, will slap it on and
leave it to you to appeal.

Paul Burke
David - 18 Mar 2005 10:13 GMT
> Just curious, are the 'pay and display' schemes still used in UK
> carparks?

Yes; and it really is irksome to have to fork out an entire 20p just to
go shopping at the market!

> It's been a long time for me (States-side, now) but I remember
> some blokes who would stick a few dozen on their cars to try
> to cheat the system.  The 'theory' was, Rita-the-meter-maid would
> give up looking for the current sticker:  it might take her longer
> to find it before one returned to drive off.

Never seen that. It does warm the cockles of one's heart, though, that
tickets with time left on are regularly passed from leaving to arriving.

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Matthew Huntbach - 18 Mar 2005 13:22 GMT
>> Just curious, are the 'pay and display' schemes still used in UK
>> carparks?

> Yes; and it really is irksome to have to fork out an entire 20p just to
> go shopping at the market!

Only if you insist in bringing your car. Are there still places where
20p is the minimum? In London I don't know of anywhere with a
minimum of less than 50p, and in many places it's more than that.

In answer to the original question, pay-and-display seems to be the
most widely used scheme. The alternative is a scheme where you collect
a ticket on entrance, and pay to use it to gain exit with the amount
dependent on the time since entry. This is more complex technically,
since it requires an automatic gate which opens on a paid-for ticket,
so is used only in bigger car parks.

Matthew Huntbach
David - 18 Mar 2005 17:33 GMT
> >> Just curious, are the 'pay and display' schemes still used in UK
> >> carparks?

> > Yes; and it really is irksome to have to fork out an entire 20p
> > just to go shopping at the market!

> Only if you insist in bringing your car.

Why else would you be using whatever paying system in the car park?

> Are there still places where
> 20p is the minimum?

Yes, of course. Did you not believe me? If ever you're in GOC on
Tuesday, Friday or Saturday, look in on South Elmsall market.

(It's also 20p to have a pee, just for the record.)

> In London I don't know of anywhere with a minimum
> of less than 50p, and in many places it's more than that.

Well, there are probably some advantages to living in London, not that
I can think of any.

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Phil C. - 18 Mar 2005 13:22 GMT
>> Just curious, are the 'pay and display' schemes still used in UK
>> carparks?
>
>Yes; and it really is irksome to have to fork out an entire 20p just to
>go shopping at the market!

I hate the customised automated parking systems used by some car parks
which involve getting a ticket from somewhere in the shopping centre
(or something). They must be a nightmare for people who don't speak
English - and for those stuck behind them at the exit barrier.
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David Marsh - 18 Mar 2005 20:24 GMT
David wrote in uk.culture.language.english
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>> Just curious, are the 'pay and display' schemes still used in UK
>> carparks?
>
> Yes; and it really is irksome to have to fork out an entire 20p just to
> go shopping at the market!

As cheap as that for the dubious privilege of adding to air pollution
and encouraging the tarmaccing of our towns and countryside?

Seems too cheap by far, to me..

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David - 19 Mar 2005 00:02 GMT
> David wrote in uk.culture.language.english about: Re: Pay and
>  Display

> >> Just curious, are the 'pay and display' schemes still used in UK
> >> carparks?
> >
> > Yes; and it really is irksome to have to fork out an entire 20p
> > just to go shopping at the market!

> As cheap as that for the dubious privilege of adding to air pollution
> and encouraging the tarmaccing of our towns and countryside?

> Seems too cheap by far, to me..

Aye. Perhaps I should use the bus that travels directly over the fields.

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David Marsh - 19 Mar 2005 15:27 GMT
David wrote in uk.culture.language.english
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>> > Yes; and it really is irksome to have to fork out an entire 20p
>> > just to go shopping at the market!
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>
> Aye. Perhaps I should use the bus that travels directly over the fields.

Wow, they have one of these where you live? ;-D
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catbus

The point being, if you choose to live somewhere with inadequate public
transport (or live elsewhere but choose not to use it), you should expect
to have to pay for the consequences of that decision. On the relatively
rare occasions anybody *needs* to use a car, 20p's a pretty small price
to pay..

If more people used public transport, we wouldn't need to keep building
bigger and wider roads everywhere..

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David - 19 Mar 2005 18:45 GMT
> David wrote in uk.culture.language.english about: Re: Pay and
>  Display

> > Aye. Perhaps I should use the bus that travels directly over the
> > fields.

> Wow, they have one of these where you live? ;-D
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catbus

Don't think my dogs'd like it.

> The point being, if you choose to live somewhere with inadequate
> public transport (or live elsewhere but choose not to use it), you
> should expect to have to pay for the consequences of that decision.
> On the relatively rare occasions anybody *needs* to use a car, 20p's
> a pretty small price to pay..

I agree, 20 pence is nothing; it's just the hassle of having to toddle
off to the other side of the car park for "nothing", come back again,
then go again to shop.

Public transport is rarely adequate if you're buying 20-inch wide plant
pots or bags of compost; nor does public transport want to know you if
you're bringing your dogs back from their daily romp in the woods on a
wet day in winter.

> If more people used public transport, we wouldn't need to keep
> building bigger and wider roads everywhere..

Aren't those for the consumer goods being stored in transit?

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Brian {Hamilton Kelly} - 21 Mar 2005 22:42 GMT
On Friday, in article <4d4d7e3d53david@dacha.freeuk.com>

> > It's been a long time for me (States-side, now) but I remember
> > some blokes who would stick a few dozen on their cars to try
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> Never seen that. It does warm the cockles of one's heart, though, that
> tickets with time left on are regularly passed from leaving to arriving.

Moreover, since most car-parking-authority owners require that the ticket
be displayed on the windscreen (and fully visible, and readily legible;
i.e. NOT upside-down, as already alluded to) then having multiple expired
tickets adhering to the inside of the screen would fall foul of the *law*
that requires there be no obstructions to the view of the driver through
the windscreen.

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