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Paul Burke - 30 Mar 2005 08:19 GMT
Is there a rule to predict whether an adjective takes the form -ical (as
in political, hypothetical), rather than -ic (as in catalytic, systematic)?

Paul Burke
Sceptic-Al - 13 Apr 2005 18:46 GMT
> Is there a rule to predict whether an adjective takes the form -ical (as
> in political, hypothetical), rather than -ic (as in catalytic, systematic)?
>
> Paul Burke

No.  There are pairs, like "politic"/"political",
"historic"/"historical", where the meanings differ.  There are also
pairs, like "ironic"/"ironical", "problematic"/"problematical", where
it does not.  There is a suggestion that -ic is more American and
-ical more British.  Often, a form in -ical correlates with a word in
-ic (music <-> musical; topic <-> topical), whereas a form in -ic
correlates with a word in -y (economy <-> economic; comedy <->
comedic).  Words in -ics tend towards -ical (ethics <-> ethical;
statistics <-> statistical) unless -ic arose first (acoustic ->
acoustics; phonetic -> phonetics).  Historically/etymologically there
has been crossover between forms, aided by the common form of the
adverb in -ically.
Giles Todd - 14 Apr 2005 01:25 GMT
> No.  There are pairs, like "politic"/"political",
> "historic"/"historical", where the meanings differ.  There are also
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> has been crossover between forms, aided by the common form of the
> adverb in -ically.

And then there are times when an economy of words apparently demands
that one become economical with the truth.

Giles
Danny Collman - 16 Apr 2005 18:06 GMT
>> No.  There are pairs, like "politic"/"political",
>> "historic"/"historical", where the meanings differ.  There are also
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>
>Giles

I'd be fascinated to know the meaning of this highly cryptic(al)
response.
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Danny Collman

Giles Todd - 17 Apr 2005 03:23 GMT
> I'd be fascinated to know the meaning of this highly cryptic(al)
> response.

Just a counter-example for the ones given in Sceptic-Al's post.  I do
realize that he was not laying down hard and fast rules.

Giles
 
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