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John of Aix - 21 Sep 2005 22:37 GMT
I have always been good at spelling (but not necessarily typing) and am
more than half a century old. I am convinced that when I was a very
young person 'dilemma' was spelt 'dilemna', the odd 'mn' as in 'autumn'
is what struck me at the time. I was shocked later (it isn't a word one
bumps into often) to find that it was spelt 'dilemma', so either the
cunning devils have changed it over the years or I imagined the whole
thing. Anyone any ideas on this?
John Briggs - 22 Sep 2005 00:35 GMT
> I have always been good at spelling (but not necessarily typing) and
> am more than half a century old. I am convinced that when I was a very
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> either the cunning devils have changed it over the years or I
> imagined the whole thing. Anyone any ideas on this?

Well, if you are not particularly familiar with 'dilemma', you are unlikely
to know about 'lemma'.  I can't account for the origin of your confusion -
perhaps you are mispronouncing the word?  Google suggests that the
misspelling is appallingly frequent: overwhelmingly from the USA, the land
of the spelling bee, but Webster appears to be blameless in this case.
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Paul Burke - 22 Sep 2005 08:38 GMT
> I am convinced that when I was a very
> young person 'dilemma' was spelt 'dilemna'...later (it isn't a word one
> bumps into often) to find that it was spelt 'dilemma',

Unlikely, given the etymology (people knew Greek back then):

"Dilemma:

1523, from L.L. dilemma, from Gk. dilemma "double proposition," a
technical term in rhetoric, from di- "two" + lemma "premise, anything
taken," from base *lab-. It should be used only of situations where
someone is forced to choose between two alternatives, both unfavorable
to him."

from http://www.etymonline.com/

Dial M for dilemma. Or, if you really want to get philosophical, try the
Dial-a-Lama.

Paul Burke
John Hall - 22 Sep 2005 09:52 GMT
>I have always been good at spelling (but not necessarily typing) and am
>more than half a century old. I am convinced that when I was a very
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>cunning devils have changed it over the years or I imagined the whole
>thing. Anyone any ideas on this?

I think that your second alternative is the correct one. :)
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John of Aix - 22 Sep 2005 22:27 GMT
>> I have always been good at spelling (but not necessarily typing) and
>> am more than half a century old. I am convinced that when I was a
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>>
> I think that your second alternative is the correct one. :)

It certainly seems like it, goodness knows why though. As I said, I was
usually pretty good on these things. Maybe I noticed it when it was
mispelt and so took it for the truth, the whole truth and nothing but
the truth.
Mike Stevens - 22 Sep 2005 11:17 GMT
> I have always been good at spelling (but not necessarily typing) and
> am more than half a century old. I am convinced that when I was a very
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> either the cunning devils have changed it over the years or I
> imagined the whole thing. Anyone any ideas on this?

OED contains to reference to the "dilemna" spelling, and says that the word
"dilemma" is linked with "lemma".

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John Briggs - 22 Sep 2005 14:56 GMT
> OED contains to reference to the "dilemna" spelling, and says that
> the word "dilemma" is linked with "lemma".

What form does the reference take?  Does it say "chiefly US" or similar?
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John Hall - 22 Sep 2005 15:52 GMT
>> OED contains to reference to the "dilemna" spelling, and says that
>> the word "dilemma" is linked with "lemma".
>
>What form does the reference take?  Does it say "chiefly US" or similar?

My guess is that the "to" in Mike's post was intended to read "no".
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Mike Stevens - 22 Sep 2005 16:08 GMT
>> OED contains to reference to the "dilemna" spelling, and says that
>> the word "dilemma" is linked with "lemma".
>
> What form does the reference take?  Does it say "chiefly US" or
> similar?

Sorry  -  meant to type "no reference".

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Web site www.mike-stevens.co.uk

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Phil C. - 22 Sep 2005 13:47 GMT
>I have always been good at spelling (but not necessarily typing) and am
>more than half a century old. I am convinced that when I was a very
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>cunning devils have changed it over the years or I imagined the whole
>thing. Anyone any ideas on this?

Perhaps you're suffering from ammesia in the autumm of your years.
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Ivan - 22 Sep 2005 19:26 GMT
> >I have always been good at spelling (but not necessarily typing) and am
> >more than half a century old. I am convinced that when I was a very
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> Perhaps you're suffering from ammesia in the autumm of your years.

Dammed dilemmas...
John of Aix - 22 Sep 2005 22:30 GMT
>>> I have always been good at spelling (but not necessarily typing)
>>> and am more than half a century old. I am convinced that when I was
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>>
>> Perhaps you're suffering from ammesia in the autumm of your years.

> Dammed dilemmas...

LOL
 
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