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Discussion Groups / British English / September 2005Ilias versus Iliad
I watched the movie 'Troy' yesterday and noticed at the very end of the films that the story was based on Homer's "Iliad". Weird because in Flemish (and in a number of other languages) the book is called 'Ilias'. Does anyone know where this difference is coming from? - Herman - > I watched the movie 'Troy' yesterday and noticed at the very end of > the films that the story was based on Homer's "Iliad". [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Does anyone know where this difference is coming from? Greek - it depends on whether the derivation is from the nominative or the genitive case.  SignatureJohn Briggs > > I watched the movie 'Troy' yesterday and noticed at the very end of > > the films that the story was based on Homer's "Iliad". [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Greek - it depends on whether the derivation is from the nominative > or the genitive case. Thanks for the info but it is only a partial answer to my question. Why does one language use one form and the other language the other? - Herman - >>> I watched the movie 'Troy' yesterday and noticed at the very end of >>> the films that the story was based on Homer's "Iliad". [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > Thanks for the info but it is only a partial answer to my question. > Why does one language use one form and the other language the other? Are you sure it is 'Ilias' in many other languages a (quick) Google search only seems to turn up 'Ilias' in germanic languages, and the original Greek. > >>> I watched the movie 'Troy' yesterday and noticed at the very end > of >>> the films that the story was based on Homer's "Iliad". [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > search only seems to turn up 'Ilias' in germanic languages, and the > original Greek. Well, there are quite a few Germanic languages, hence 'many' languages. But that's not really the main issue here. Why is English different from the other Germanic languages? - Herman - > Why is English different from the other Germanic languages? For the same reasons that all Germanic languages differ from other Germanic languages. Giles >>>I watched the movie 'Troy' yesterday and noticed at the very end of >>>the films that the story was based on Homer's "Iliad". [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > Thanks for the info but it is only a partial answer to my question. Why > does one language use one form and the other language the other? I think this question is probably unanswerable since th forms Ilias/iliad ha#ve existed in teh various languages for several hundred years. Not all questions about language have a logical answer, I'm afraid. Regards, Einde O'Callaghan >>> I watched the movie 'Troy' yesterday and noticed at the very end of >>> the films that the story was based on Homer's "Iliad". [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > Thanks for the info but it is only a partial answer to my question. > Why does one language use one form and the other language the other? OK, let's try to be systematic - what do you call the Aeneid? SignatureJohn Briggs > >>> I watched the movie 'Troy' yesterday and noticed at the very end > of >>> the films that the story was based on Homer's "Iliad". [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > OK, let's try to be systematic - what do you call the Aeneid? Aha, same thing happens here: we write 'Aeneïs'. Seems to be a consistent discrepancy. - Herman - > I watched the movie 'Troy' yesterday and noticed at the very end of the > films that the story was based on Homer's "Iliad". [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Does anyone know where this difference is coming from? The French are quite unashamed about frenchifying classical names (the one above will be pronounce Il y a, I expect). Look at this lot: http://www.ai.univ-paris8.fr/corpus/lurcat/dara/ulysse.htm Whereas the Brits mostly just englishify the pronunciation, as in Yooliseas, Playtoe, Youripperdese, and The Mr Cleese. Paul Burke >> I watched the movie 'Troy' yesterday and noticed at the very end of >> the films that the story was based on Homer's "Iliad". [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > The French are quite unashamed about frenchifying classical names (the > one above will be pronounce Il y a, I expect). Look at this lot: No, Iliad as in English, slightly longer 'I' of course. But otherwise what you say is true, as the link confirms, they do mainly frenchify words and that make sus Brits sound very posh when we say things in 'Latin'. |
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