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John & Carol Benney - 20 Dec 2005 10:52 GMT
Las week the occupier of what they called a 'help desk' wrote to me
"...(such and such) is a fact which I hope you would not defy or mar."

Would anyone care to guess what he thought he was saying and what
language he thought it in?
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Paul Burke - 20 Dec 2005 12:18 GMT
> Las week the occupier of what they called a 'help desk' wrote to me
> "...(such and such) is a fact which I hope you would not defy or mar."
>
> Would anyone care to guess what he thought he was saying and what
> language he thought it in?

Deny or demur?

Language- Spell Czech, perhaps.

Paul Burke
Dave Fawthrop - 20 Dec 2005 13:59 GMT
| Las week the occupier of what they called a 'help desk' wrote to me
| "...(such and such) is a fact which I hope you would not defy or mar."
|
| Would anyone care to guess what he thought he was saying and

Do what you are told, without question :-(
Do not rock the boat :-(

| what
| language he thought it in?

Management speak. :-((((
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John Briggs - 20 Dec 2005 14:23 GMT
>> Las week the occupier of what they called a 'help desk' wrote to me
>> "...(such and such) is a fact which I hope you would not defy or
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> Do what you are told, without question :-(
> Do not rock the boat :-(

That may have been what he thought he was saying, but that is not what the
words mean.
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John of Aix - 20 Dec 2005 17:51 GMT
> Las week the occupier of what they called a 'help desk' wrote to me
> "...(such and such) is a fact which I hope you would not defy or mar."
>
> Would anyone care to guess what he thought he was saying and what
> language he thought it in?

mar=damage, disfigure
John Briggs - 20 Dec 2005 18:04 GMT
>> Las week the occupier of what they called a 'help desk' wrote to me
>> "...(such and such) is a fact which I hope you would not defy or
>> mar." Would anyone care to guess what he thought he was saying and what
>> language he thought it in?
>
> mar=damage, disfigure

I think you have missed the point of the question.  The meaning of the words
does not match the intended meaning of the sentence.
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John of Aix - 20 Dec 2005 19:32 GMT
>>> Las week the occupier of what they called a 'help desk' wrote to me
>>> "...(such and such) is a fact which I hope you would not defy or
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> I think you have missed the point of the question.  The meaning of
> the words does not match the intended meaning of the sentence.

Possibly. As to the meaning...gobbledygook obviously.
John Briggs - 20 Dec 2005 21:36 GMT
>>>> Las week the occupier of what they called a 'help desk' wrote to me
>>>> "...(such and such) is a fact which I hope you would not defy or
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>
> Possibly. As to the meaning...gobbledygook obviously.

Not so obviously.  It was intended to mean something like "reject,
completely or in part."
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Nick Wagg - 21 Dec 2005 09:09 GMT
> > Las week the occupier of what they called a 'help desk' wrote to me
> > "...(such and such) is a fact which I hope you would not defy or mar."
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> mar=damage, disfigure

Used in The Potteries in the sense of  "spoil", particularly in the
phrase "a marred (or mardy) arse" - a spoilt child or person.
Giles Todd - 21 Dec 2005 23:42 GMT
> Used in The Potteries in the sense of  "spoil", particularly in the
> phrase "a marred (or mardy) arse" - a spoilt child or person.

Same in the East Midlands in the early 1960s (I'll leave you to guess
how I know).  Some citations from the OED entry:

1903 Eng. Dial. Dict. IV. 34/1 A boy who cries with pain is called by
his fellows a ‘mardy baby’.  1913 D. H. Lawrence Sons & Lovers vi.
127 ‘Now, Miriam,’ said Maurice, ‘you come an' 'ave a go.’ ‘No,’ she
cried, shrinking back. ‘Ha! baby. The mardy-kid!’ said her brothers.
1915 I Rainbow i. 12 Young Tom, whom he called a mardy baby.  a1930 I
Phoenix II (1968) 170 As for Harold, he was all right. He was very
respectable and a bit of a mardy, perhaps+but he was all right.  1959
J. Braine Vodi i. 22 ‘Don't be so bloody soft, man,’ Tom said. ‘I
don't want to go.’ ‘You're mardy. You're dead mardy.’  1961 J. I. M.
Stewart Man who won Pools 35 'E were a mardy one as a nipper, our
Phil.  1975 D. Clark Premedicated Murder v. 83 ‘You can get all mardy
about it if you like,’ said Green, unabashed.

Giles
 
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