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good riddance (to bad rubbish)

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Pawe³ Piotr Stawski - 21 Dec 2005 23:46 GMT
Forget about x-mas.
Gimmie some examples of the usage of this phrase.
I know its meaning. OK? What I need is some nice context, nice story,
fabulous conversation in which it came up.
Cheers,
Pawe³
Giles Todd - 22 Dec 2005 01:52 GMT
> Forget about x-mas.

I wish.

> Gimmie some examples of the usage of this phrase.

Say "please", please.  Nicely.

> I know its meaning. OK? What I need is some nice context, nice story,
> fabulous conversation in which it came up.

1596 Shakes. Merch. V. ii. vii. 78 Portia adew.+ Por. A gentle
riddance.  c1613 Middleton No Wit like Woman's ii. iii, Low. They've
given thee all the slip. Mis. Low. So, a fair riddance!  1676 G.
Etherege Man of Mode ii. ii, Loveit. Call him again. Pert. E'n let
him go, a fair riddance.  1742 Young Nt. Th. ii. 119 We+all
expedients tire, To lash the ling'ring moments into speed, And whirl
us (happy riddance!) from ourselves.  1782 E. N. Blower Geo. Bateman
III. 7 In less time than whilst one could cry—‘A good riddance’.
1847 Dickens Dombey (1848) xliv. 438 A good riddance of bad rubbish!+
Get along with you, or I'll have you carried out!  1863 C. Reade Hard
Cash xxxii, She is turned away—for sauce—and a good riddance of bad
rubbish.  1883 ‘Annie Thomas’ Mod. Housewife 35 ‘As soon as his
master comes home he shall go.’ ‘A good riddance too,’ she said
morosely.  1924 M. Irwin Still she wished for Company xviii. 220 If
all they say downstairs is true+it's good riddance to bad foreign
rubbish.  1928 S. Sassoon Mem. Fox-Hunting Man viii. ii. 287 It may
well be wondered how the Hunt had survived the despotism of the
old-world grandee, with whom previous Masters had been obliged to
cooperate (as ‘best Master we've ever had’ while they reigned, and
‘good riddance of bad rubbish’ when they resigned).  1975 Times 4
July 5/3 The American War of Independence+can be seen, as George III
consoled himself by looking at it, as good riddance to bad rubbish.
1977 H. Fast Immigrants ii. 110 A dead Chinese was good riddance to
bad rubbish.

HTH, HAND, MERRY X, PAY ATTENTION TO YOUR MANNERS.

Giles
Pawel Piotr Stawski - 22 Dec 2005 20:28 GMT
>> Forget about x-mas.
>
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>
> Say "please", please.  Nicely.

Please nicely :-)

>> I know its meaning. OK? What I need is some nice context, nice story,
>> fabulous conversation in which it came up.
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>
> Giles
Paul Burke - 22 Dec 2005 08:43 GMT
> Gimmie some examples of the usage of this phrase.
> I know its meaning. OK? What I need is some nice context, nice story,
> fabulous conversation in which it came up.

I associate it with the pushy middle-class family over the road when we
were kids. The son, a total plonker, used it frequently, perhaps because
it sounded posh to him.

Well, he made it to the upper levels of the middle class. While we
became teachers, engineers, opticians and so on, HE is now (at last
sighting) a music critic for a national newspaper- and STILL a total
plonker.

Paul Burke
Pawe³ Piotr Stawski - 22 Dec 2005 20:29 GMT
My sentence was rude indeed. Accept my apologies.
Could you be so kind and provide some sentences with this phrase, please?
Regards,
Pawe³

> Forget about x-mas.
> Gimmie some examples of the usage of this phrase.
> I know its meaning. OK? What I need is some nice context, nice story,
> fabulous conversation in which it came up.
> Cheers,
> Pawe³
Giles Todd - 23 Dec 2005 01:59 GMT
> My sentence was rude indeed. Accept my apologies.
> Could you be so kind and provide some sentences with this phrase, please?

I give up.

Giles
Pawel Piotr Stawski - 23 Dec 2005 11:20 GMT
>> My sentence was rude indeed. Accept my apologies.
>> Could you be so kind and provide some sentences with this phrase, please?
>
> I give up.

Great, because you just waste your energy writing some smart-alec's remarks.
Instead, you could help my learning and provide some examples of ...remember
of what? I asked for "good riddance".
Nevertheless, take care and maybe one day you'll find other way of writing
than only responding to everything in a critical way.
Merry Chr...uppps...Holiday Season Greetings....
or something,
Take care,
Pawel

> Giles
Paul Burke - 23 Dec 2005 11:35 GMT
> you just waste your energy writing some smart-alec's remarks.
> Instead, you could help my learning and provide some examples of ...remember
> of what? I asked for "good riddance".

No. Bog off, you're a pest. We don't have to give you anything, and it
seems you are a presumptive arsehole.

You said you were anglophile: we can do without being philed by some people.

So sod off, and good riddance.

Paul Burke
Pawel Piotr Stawski - 23 Dec 2005 14:43 GMT
>> you just waste your energy writing some smart-alec's remarks. Instead,
>> you could help my learning and provide some examples of ...remember of
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> You said you were anglophile: we can do without being philed by some
> people.

Philed you mean liked?
Pawel

> So sod off, and good riddance.

There we go. This is a nice example I asked for. Thanks.
I promise to change my register. I am going to work on it hard. Give me a
chance, please. I start with the word please. It will be used more often by
me.
You are nice folks here, I appreciate that. If I made you feel angry, it
wasn't on purpose

Cheers,
Pawel

> Paul Burke
Nick Wagg - 23 Dec 2005 11:42 GMT
> Merry Chr...uppps...Holiday Season Greetings....
> or something,
> Take care,
> Pawel

Nope, in the UK we still wish each other Merry Christmas.
Einde O'Callaghan - 23 Dec 2005 11:48 GMT
>>>My sentence was rude indeed. Accept my apologies.
>>>Could you be so kind and provide some sentences with this phrase, please?
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> Nevertheless, take care and maybe one day you'll find other way of writing
> than only responding to everything in a critical way.

I'm afraid you've outstayed your welcome here. You're impolite,
demanding and often downright insulting. I suggest you take a look at
the newsgroups alt.usage.english and alt.english.usage if you really
want to know how friendly this newsgroup is. There no quarter is taken
or given.

Perhaps you can come back when you've acquired better manners.

Goodbye.

Einde O'Callaghan
Pawel Piotr Stawski - 23 Dec 2005 14:30 GMT
>>>>My sentence was rude indeed. Accept my apologies.
>>>>Could you be so kind and provide some sentences with this phrase,
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
>
> Einde O'Callaghan

Well, well, well. There you go. Teaching me good manners. How come you did
not take into consideration the simple fact I am not a native speaker and
sometime it may happen that I sound rude due to the simple fact of misusage
of words. However, you know better. My intentions are always the same. To
learn something. And some people here, instead of answering questions find
it funny to trample on me a lot. And this is a thing I cannot bear.
OK, Sorry for this. I guess there is always the word you can say in such a
situation. I am sorry.

I know that other lists are obnoxious and use a lot of bad language. So I
wouldn't like to lose this one.

Take care,
Cheers,
Pawel
Poland
Pawel Piotr Stawski - 23 Dec 2005 14:40 GMT
>>>>My sentence was rude indeed. Accept my apologies.
>>>>Could you be so kind and provide some sentences with this phrase,
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> I'm afraid you've outstayed your welcome here. You're impolite, demanding
> and often downright insulting.

From now on there is this woe. I improve my language. My New Year's
resolution. If you find anything rude, let me know. I have to work on my
English register.

Pawel

I suggest you take a look at
> the newsgroups alt.usage.english and alt.english.usage if you really want
> to know how friendly this newsgroup is. There no quarter is taken or
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> Einde O'Callaghan
Pedt - 23 Dec 2005 13:51 GMT
In message <206f8$43abdd95$d4ba586d$19133@news.chello.pl>, at 12:20:43
on Fri, 23 Dec 2005, Pawel Piotr Stawski <english@stawski.pl> wibbled

>> I give up.
>
>Great, because you just waste your energy writing some smart-alec's remarks.
>Instead, you could help my learning and provide some examples of ...remember
>of what? I asked for "good riddance".

>Nevertheless, take care and maybe one day you'll find other way of writing
>than only responding to everything in a critical way.

Actually, you demanded not 'asked' by your use of 'gimme' in your
original post.

As a reader and occasional poster here I think you've been remarkably
well treated despite your often bad manners and generally demanding
attitude, so a lot of allowance has been given you as a non native
speaker. I think you have perhaps been given more than you actually
deserved as your standard of English in subsequent posts is generally
much better - as in your quoted post above.

The frequent "requests" that you post are getting to the point that you
see this newsgroup as your own personal learning centre (which it isn't)
and are getting to be a pest: one who is intolerant, insistent and
insulting - just look at the response you gave above.

If you really want people to say, in your language, "Spierdalaj" then
carry on. The sentence with 'good riddance' will be:
"When Pawel unsubscribes from this newsgroup, people will say 'good
riddance'."

I would strongly suggest that you shut up for a while and think about
what you have been told about your manners, attitude and being a pest
both in this and other posts. I would also suggest that you make an
apology for your manners before you shut up for a while.

Being the season of goodwill: Wesolych Swiat i Szczesliwego Nowego Roku.

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Pedt
Helpful words 02: Inspissate (v) To thicken, especially a liquid, by
evaporation. "Excuse me whilst I just inspissate the soup" may lead to
unusual reactions from hard-of-hearing chefs.

Pawel Piotr Stawski - 23 Dec 2005 17:31 GMT
> In message <206f8$43abdd95$d4ba586d$19133@news.chello.pl>, at 12:20:43 on
> Fri, 23 Dec 2005, Pawel Piotr Stawski <english@stawski.pl> wibbled
[quoted text clipped - 29 lines]
> "When Pawel unsubscribes from this newsgroup, people will say 'good
> riddance'."

Thanks for this example.
Regards,
Pawel

> I would strongly suggest that you shut up for a while and think about what
> you have been told about your manners, attitude and being a pest both in
> this and other posts. I would also suggest that you make an apology for
> your manners before you shut up for a while.
>
> Being the season of goodwill: Wesolych Swiat i Szczesliwego Nowego Roku.
Pawel Piotr Stawski - 23 Dec 2005 17:51 GMT
> In message <206f8$43abdd95$d4ba586d$19133@news.chello.pl>, at 12:20:43 on
> Fri, 23 Dec 2005, Pawel Piotr Stawski <english@stawski.pl> wibbled
[quoted text clipped - 36 lines]
>
> Being the season of goodwill: Wesolych Swiat i Szczesliwego Nowego Roku.

Thank you very much, especially for the last line, the same to you. I do not
think that "shut up" is a polite way to suggest a better behaviour but if
you suppose that using curses in Polish and other offensive vocabulary would
be correct when teaching a good behaviour just carry on. In one line say a
swearing in other wish me all the best. It's rather ambiguous attitude
towards people.
I stressed that many time. Instead of "gimmie" should be "could you please
..." however, when writing I simply dropped that. That's it. Case closed. At
least for me.

My private learning centre? Well, I try to use whatever I can to improve my
language. I was given a lesson here not to use certain words and I am going
to improve my register. Unfortunately, if a Pole is going to curse in my own
language, next time I am going to sharpshoot as well.

After such words I guess Merry X-mas sounds rather funny. But you did it, so
I am going to do it too.

Regards,
Pawel
Pedt - 23 Dec 2005 22:21 GMT
In message <469b8$43ac3939$d4ba586d$11249@news.chello.pl>, at 18:51:42
on Fri, 23 Dec 2005, Pawel Piotr Stawski <english@stawski.pl> wibbled

>> Being the season of goodwill: Wesolych Swiat i Szczesliwego Nowego Roku.
>
>Thank you very much, especially for the last line, the same to you.

Thank you.

>I do not
>think that "shut up" is a polite way to suggest a better behaviour

No Pawel. I was suggesting that you think about what some people are
telling you and do not post until you have thought about it.

>but if
>you suppose that using curses in Polish and other offensive vocabulary would
>be correct when teaching a good behaviour just carry on.

No Pawel. I told you, in your own language, what you could expect the
responses to be if you continued in your current behaviour in this
newsgroup, as you may not have understand the English phrases that would
be used. I took the time to get a phrase you would understand in your
own language.

I should not have bothered. Seven new threads from you including two you
have responded to yourself at least once and one where it is obvious you
know similar slang in the UK suggests you are not going to listen to any
negative comments.

>Unfortunately, if a Pole is going to curse in my own language,

I am not Polish.

>next time I am going to sharpshoot as well.

I will not see your posts in future.

>After such words I guess Merry X-mas sounds rather funny.

Not really. I took my time to explain to you how you appeared to this
newsgroup in your posts and how you could amend your behaviour in
response to the negative comments to stay as part of this group. I was
trying to be helpful. If you do not like that then it is your problem.
This does not mean that I should not wish you a happy Christmas.

I admin a mailing list of people (not Polish) who are learning English
as a self-help group, some of whom are very fluent. I pointed this group
of people at ucle. Although none have AFAIAA called on the resources of
this newsgroup yet, they may do so in future with possibly tortured
English that ucle will try to unravel as a matter of course. I would not
expect any of the mailing list to exhibit the attitude and rudeness that
you have done.

Czochraj bobra.
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Pawel Piotr Stawski - 23 Dec 2005 20:45 GMT
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>> My sentence was rude indeed. Accept my apologies.
>> Could you be so kind and provide some sentences with this phrase, please?
>
> I give up.
>
> Giles
Nick Wagg - 23 Dec 2005 09:19 GMT
> Forget about x-mas.
> Gimmie some examples of the usage of this phrase.

"I see that the Yellow party received a real drubbing in the election", said
Michael.
"Good riddance to bad rubbish, I say", James retorted.
Pawe³ Piotr Stawski - 23 Dec 2005 22:48 GMT
>> Forget about x-mas.
>> Gimmie some examples of the usage of this phrase., PLEASE *should be
>> here, wasn't, sorry.

> "I see that the Yellow party received a real drubbing in the election",
> said
> Michael.
> "Good riddance to bad rubbish, I say", James retorted.

Although I screwed the question thank you for your contribution.
Regards,
Pawel
Pawe³ Piotr Stawski - 23 Dec 2005 22:52 GMT
Sometimes it happens that I recall something. Then I post it as an addition
to my previous thought. Big deal.
Regards,
Pawel

>>> Forget about x-mas.
>>> Gimmie some examples of the usage of this phrase., PLEASE *should be
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> Regards,
> Pawel
 
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