I do know what a chav is... but I wonder why on earth I can't find it in
*any* of the print (not online) dictionaries I checked: NODE (1 vol),
the OED, a slightly older Collins, a huge French/English Larousse...
Is the term too new? Or somehow not PC (shouldn't be a problem for the
dictionaries, though)? Or what?

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Nick Wagg - 18 Jan 2006 13:11 GMT
> I do know what a chav is... but I wonder why on earth I can't find it in
> *any* of the print (not online) dictionaries I checked: NODE (1 vol),
> the OED, a slightly older Collins, a huge French/English Larousse...
>
> Is the term too new? Or somehow not PC (shouldn't be a problem for the
> dictionaries, though)? Or what?
Yes, too new.
When I was a kid, the word "common" was used by some
(not by me or my family - that would have been common)
to refer to the sort of people who are now known as "chavs".
Paul Burke - 18 Jan 2006 13:56 GMT
> I do know what a chav is... but I wonder why on earth I can't find it in
> *any* of the print (not online) dictionaries I checked: NODE (1 vol),
> the OED, a slightly older Collins, a huge French/English Larousse...
>
> Is the term too new? Or somehow not PC (shouldn't be a problem for the
> dictionaries, though)? Or what?
As new as the phenomenon itself.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk_news/story/0,3604,1330487,00.html
Paul Burke
Paul Burke - 18 Jan 2006 14:00 GMT
> I do know what a chav is...
or this:
Chav
The precise origin of chav is a matter of debate, but most people agree
on its geography, namely that it probably began in Chatham, Kent, where
it was best known until it gained its recent high profile. It seems that
the word itself began as a derogatory label for an older underclass,
gypsies, many of whom have lived in that area for generations. Language
expert Michael Quinion surmises that chav may well come from the Romany
word for a child, chavi, recorded from the middle of the nineteenth
century. Later in the same century it was apparently used as an insult
to an adult man, after which it fell into obscurity before its revival
today.
- Susie Dent, larpers and shroomers
Citizen Ted - 11 Feb 2006 22:29 GMT
>I do know what a chav is... but I wonder why on earth I can't find it in
>*any* of the print (not online) dictionaries I checked: NODE (1 vol),
>the OED, a slightly older Collins, a huge French/English Larousse...
>
>Is the term too new? Or somehow not PC (shouldn't be a problem for the
>dictionaries, though)? Or what?
It's a comparatively new slang term, with usage limited to the UK. For
details on chavs and chavdom, check out: http://www.chavscum.co.uk/
- TR
Giles Todd - 12 Feb 2006 00:26 GMT
> It's a comparatively new slang term, with usage limited to the UK. For
> details on chavs and chavdom, check out: http://www.chavscum.co.uk/
More like England rather than the UK. Scottish chavs are neds,
according to my teenaged daughter.
Giles
John Briggs - 12 Feb 2006 00:35 GMT
>> It's a comparatively new slang term, with usage limited to the UK.
>> For details on chavs and chavdom, check out:
>> http://www.chavscum.co.uk/
>
> More like England rather than the UK. Scottish chavs are neds,
> according to my teenaged daughter.
(South) Wales has chavs, according to my niece.

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Paul Burke - 13 Feb 2006 09:28 GMT
> (South) Wales has chavs, according to my niece.
Surely siafs?
John Briggs - 13 Feb 2006 09:34 GMT
>> (South) Wales has chavs, according to my niece.
>
> Surely siafs?
That may depend on how much Welsh you think is spoken in Swansea - in
November a specially-commissioned performance of Hamlet in Welsh, with a
cast of 32, played in the 1000-seat Grand Theatre to an audience of 28! For
the Cardiff performances they took the precaution of handing out free
tickets...

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Nick Wagg - 13 Feb 2006 09:45 GMT
> > (South) Wales has chavs, according to my niece.
>
> Surely siafs?
:-)