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Einde O'Callaghan - 09 Jun 2006 08:13 GMT
Dear all,

After having been cut off for several months I am now back on-line and
it would seem that in the meantime the lively community that was here
when I lost contact has gone into hibernation. After looking briefly at
the Google archives I can see no reason for this. So: Is anybody out
there? ;-)

Regards, Einde O'Callaghan
Mike Stevens - 09 Jun 2006 08:24 GMT
> Dear all,
>
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> at the Google archives I can see no reason for this. So: Is anybody
> out there? ;-)

Well, I'm still around.  Or rather I'm back again, like you, after a bout of
computer trouble a few weks ago.  And, like you, I'm wodering why it's so
quiet here.

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David - 09 Jun 2006 09:29 GMT
> > Dear all,
> >
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> > looking briefly at the Google archives I can see no reason for
> > this. So: Is anybody out there? ;-)

> Well, I'm still around.  Or rather I'm back again, like you, after a
> bout of computer trouble a few weks ago.  And, like you, I'm
> wodering why it's so quiet here.

Everyone has keyboard problems?

Okay, looks around for subject to chat about...I know, let's have a
discussion on "way". I hear it way too much and its use really is way
over the top these days. I know we used to use way more words - and way
better in many respects - but they do seem to have gone the way of all
fish.

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Joseph Littleshoes - 10 Jun 2006 00:27 GMT
>>Dear all,
>>
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> computer trouble a few weks ago.  And, like you, I'm wodering why it's so
> quiet here.

Your all too good at what you do? I am just a native English speaker
with a love of the language and its literature, and can be a bit
intimidated by the expertise and knowledge demonstrated here, especially
of the more esoteric variety.

Many times i have had an opinion on a post but hesitate to reply just
cause i know others will do a better job of it.

But i do enjoy 'lurking' here.
---
JL
John Briggs - 10 Jun 2006 09:10 GMT
> Your all too good at what you do?

"You're"
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Joseph Littleshoes - 10 Jun 2006 23:36 GMT
>>Your all too good at what you do?
>
> "You're"

See:)

But im still unclear about it, is not "your" an attributive adjective?
"of or pertaining to people in general" course i got that from an
American dictionary.
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JL
Einde O'Callaghan - 11 Jun 2006 05:44 GMT
Joseph Littleshoes schrieb:

>>> Your all too good at what you do?
>>
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> "of or pertaining to people in general" course i got that from an
> American dictionary.

In this case it's "you're", the short form of "you are", since your
sentence is "You are all too good ..."

Regqards, Einde O'Callaghan
Joseph Littleshoes - 11 Jun 2006 19:14 GMT
> Joseph Littleshoes schrieb:
>
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>
> Regqards, Einde O'Callaghan

Back to remedial English for me.  I spent 20 minutes the other day
trying to figure out the past tense of read.
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JL
mUs1Ka - 11 Jun 2006 19:30 GMT
>> Joseph Littleshoes schrieb:
>>
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
> Back to remedial English for me.  I spent 20 minutes the other day
> trying to figure out the past tense of read.

Road?

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UK.

Joseph Littleshoes - 11 Jun 2006 20:25 GMT
>>> Joseph Littleshoes schrieb:
>>>
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
>
> Road?

I instinctually wanted to write "red" but i knew that was wrong.
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JL
Nick Wagg - 12 Jun 2006 09:23 GMT
> I instinctually wanted to write "red" but i knew that was wrong.

That should be "instinctively" and "I".
Joseph Littleshoes - 12 Jun 2006 09:29 GMT
>>I instinctually wanted to write "red" but i knew that was wrong.
>
> That should be "instinctively" and "I".

i have always been a big fan of e. e. cummings.
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JL
Nick Wagg - 12 Jun 2006 09:52 GMT
>>>I instinctually wanted to write "red" but i knew that was wrong.
>>
>> That should be "instinctively" and "I".
> i have always been a big fan of e. e. cummings.

But obviously not a disciple, or you wouldn't have used a full stop
after each "e".

Don't let the pedantry of some us discourage you from posting.
It's just that we are fans of "plain English" and believe that following
the rules is usually the best way to ensure that you are understood by
the most people.
Joseph Littleshoes - 12 Jun 2006 19:37 GMT
>>>>I instinctually wanted to write "red" but i knew that was wrong.
>>>
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> the rules is usually the best way to ensure that you are understood by
> the most people.

I looked up the difference between 'instinctively' and instinctually and
could not find a definitive difference, is it just usage?  English vs.
American? I used to have a style manual on my computer but seem to have
misplaced it.
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JL
Nick Wagg - 13 Jun 2006 10:15 GMT
>>>>>I instinctually wanted to write "red" but i knew that was wrong.
>>>>
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
> American? I used to have a style manual on my computer but seem to have
> misplaced it.

I had assumed that "instinctually" is not a word but having checked my
dictionary it appears that both are valid. Sorry.  However, to me it
doesn't sound English at all, despite my dictionary (Collins) not
marking it as an American variant.
John Hall - 12 Jun 2006 10:29 GMT
>Back to remedial English for me.  I spent 20 minutes the other day
>trying to figure out the past tense of read.

It's surprising how many people seem to think that the past tense of
"lead" is "lead".
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Paul Burke - 12 Jun 2006 11:08 GMT
> It's surprising how many people seem to think that the past tense of
> "lead" is "lead".

Is the past tense of "zinc" "zanc"?

Paul Burke
Peter Duncanson - 12 Jun 2006 13:18 GMT
>> It's surprising how many people seem to think that the past tense of
>> "lead" is "lead".
>
>Is the past tense of "zinc" "zanc"?

Past participle "zunc".

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Einde O'Callaghan - 12 Jun 2006 22:04 GMT
>>>It's surprising how many people seem to think that the past tense of
>>>"lead" is "lead".
>>
>>Is the past tense of "zinc" "zanc"?
>
> Past participle "zunc".

Shouldn't it be zinc, zought, zought? ;)

Regards, Einde O'Callaghan
David - 13 Jun 2006 16:40 GMT
> >> It's surprising how many people seem to think that the past tense
> >> of "lead" is "lead".
> >
> >Is the past tense of "zinc" "zanc"?
> >
> Past participle "zunc".

Despite my diving into the depths of my dictionaries, I can find no
trace of that.

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Joseph Littleshoes - 12 Jun 2006 19:45 GMT
>> It's surprising how many people seem to think that the past tense of
>> "lead" is "lead".
>
> Is the past tense of "zinc" "zanc"?
>
> Paul Burke

How does the line from the old Groucho Marx movie go?

Son to Father: Will there be any thing further Father?

Father to Son: Shouldn't that be Father further?

Or the line in the E.  F.  Benson 'Mapp & Lucia' book

Miss Mapp: I would hate to have found you had been fined.
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JL
Nick Wagg - 13 Jun 2006 10:16 GMT
>> It's surprising how many people seem to think that the past tense of
>> "lead" is "lead".
>
> Is the past tense of "zinc" "zanc"?

I don't zinc so, zanc you.
Tony Mountifield - 09 Jun 2006 09:42 GMT
> After having been cut off for several months I am now back on-line and
> it would seem that in the meantime the lively community that was here
> when I lost contact has gone into hibernation. After looking briefly at
> the Google archives I can see no reason for this. So: Is anybody out
> there? ;-)

I'm here, and yes, it has been quiet. I tend to lurk and respond to
items that interest me, but seldom start a thread myself. Perhaps
there are too many of us like that!

Cheers
Tony
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Nick Wagg - 09 Jun 2006 10:10 GMT
> ...So: Is anybody out there? ;-)

Yep.
Molly Mockford - 09 Jun 2006 11:50 GMT
At 09:13:57 on Fri, 9 Jun 2006, Einde O'Callaghan
<einde.ocallaghan@planet-interkom.de> wrote in
<4esla1F1fkj2kU1@individual.net>:

>After having been cut off for several months I am now back on-line and
>it would seem that in the meantime the lively community that was here
>when I lost contact has gone into hibernation. After looking briefly at
>the Google archives I can see no reason for this. So: Is anybody out
>there? ;-)

I'm still here, and waiting for something interesting to happen!  Most
of the traffic lately has been EFL people wanting help with
translations, job application letters etc., none of which led to any
real get-yer-teeth-into-it discussion.

It's pretty quiet all over Usenet, though, these days.  Even my busiest
groups are less busy than they used to be.  I blame those web forums,
myself.  (Web fora?  What's the consensus on this?)
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Nick Wagg - 09 Jun 2006 12:58 GMT
> At 09:13:57 on Fri, 9 Jun 2006, Einde O'Callaghan
> <einde.ocallaghan@planet-interkom.de> wrote in
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> groups are less busy than they used to be.  I blame those web forums,
> myself.  (Web fora?  What's the consensus on this?)

I think some are driven away or discouraged by the seasonal
trollery during the school holidays.  Maybe moderation, in more
than one sense of the word, is the answer.
John of Aix - 09 Jun 2006 20:05 GMT
> So: Is anybody out there? ;-)

I'm not. I'm in here. Where are you then?
Dave Fawthrop - 10 Jun 2006 06:02 GMT
|Dear all,
|
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|the Google archives I can see no reason for this. So: Is anybody out
|there? ;-)

This is a uk newsgroup and the weather in the UK is glorious and sunny, to
the extent that the Met Office has issued a ?bad? weather warning
yesterday.  Maybe everyone is out in the garden, on holiday, out walking,
or have found something more appropriate to do in the sunshine, than
posting to usenet.
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method of accessing usenet. GG subscribers would be well advised get a
newsreader, say Agent, and a newsserver, say news.individual.net. These
will allow them: to see only *new* posts, a killfile, and other goodies.

 
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