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The word "Gaelic"

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Claus Tondering - 20 Jun 2006 17:28 GMT
According to my dictionary, the word "Gaelic" should be pronounced gay-lick.
However, on a recent visit to Scotland, it seemed to me that most people there
pronounce it gah-lick.

Is this a specifically Scottish pronunciation, or is my dictionary wrong?

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Einde O'Callaghan - 20 Jun 2006 21:32 GMT
Claus Tondering schrieb:
> According to my dictionary, the word "Gaelic" should be pronounced gay-lick.
> However, on a recent visit to Scotland, it seemed to me that most people there
> pronounce it gah-lick.
>
> Is this a specifically Scottish pronunciation, or is my dictionary wrong?

This is indeed the Scottish pronunciation - it mirror's the Scots Gaelic
pronunciation of the name of the language - spelled Gaidhlig (pronounced
roughlY "GALLig"), rather than the Irish Gaelic name, Gaeilge
(pronounced roughly "GAYLgeh").

Regards, Einde O'Callaghan
Peter Duncanson - 20 Jun 2006 21:40 GMT
>According to my dictionary, the word "Gaelic" should be pronounced gay-lick.
>However, on a recent visit to Scotland, it seemed to me that most people there
>pronounce it gah-lick.
>
>Is this a specifically Scottish pronunciation, or is my dictionary wrong?

Your dictionary's information is incomplete.

In Scotland the word "gaelic" tends to be pronounced gah-lick, and
in Ireland it tends to be pronounced gay-lick.

There may be exceptions.
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golaoi@gmail.com - 26 Jun 2006 20:39 GMT
Correct, but Irish people seldom use the word Gaelic, unless they are
dismissive of the language. They call it Irish. Linguists call it Irish
Gaelic as it and Scots Gaelic come from middle Irish. They had the same
literary form until about 1750 or so. If you speak one language it is
very easy to learn the other, but they are not mutually intellligible
in about 50% of sentences, due to some word which are different, and
much more idioms etc. Both languages will be as good as dead in about
30 years I reckon, something that's a crying shame as they're older
than most spoken languages in Europe.
Einde O'Callaghan - 26 Jun 2006 22:12 GMT
golaoi@gmail.com schrieb:
> Correct, but Irish people seldom use the word Gaelic, unless they are
> dismissive of the language. They call it Irish.

When Irish people speak about Gaelic they mean a form of football played
in Ireland (and a few other places with Irish immigrant populations).

Regards, Einde O'Callaghan
Peter Duncanson - 27 Jun 2006 00:13 GMT
>Correct, but Irish people seldom use the word Gaelic,

>unless they are dismissive of the language.

The word may not be used of the language, but it is used heavily in
reference to sport: Gaelic Athletic Association, Gaelic Football,
Gaelic Games, etc.

>They call it Irish. Linguists call it Irish
>Gaelic as it and Scots Gaelic come from middle Irish. They had the same
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>30 years I reckon, something that's a crying shame as they're older
>than most spoken languages in Europe.

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Peter Duncanson
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golaoi@gmail.com - 28 Jun 2006 07:36 GMT
I agree. Gaeilic here means Gaelic football. Wasn't thinking about
sport. I absolutely detest Irish people calling the language Gaelic,
because it is done with contempt.
 
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