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Sir Francesco Reffo - 16 Jul 2007 09:24 GMT
Good mornig,
some question about the word Barbershop  and other:

1_ Wich is the right spelling: barbershop or barber'shop?

2_ I'm looking (working as a copy)  for the common words that the
barber  use to said  afther the cut.
sometingh like .. "that's OK! .. "  or "ok, you be ok"  ..

shotly; "someting connect to the barber's cut.

thank you !

FR
Blue Sow - 16 Jul 2007 16:43 GMT
> Good morning,
> some question about the word Barbershop  and other:
>
> 1_ Which is the right spelling: barbershop or barber'shop?

Neither.
Barber-shop is the usual spelling.

If you wished to add an apostrophe, you would need an additional 's' as in
barber's shop.

> 2_ I'm looking (working as a copy)  for the common words that the
> barber  use to said  after the cut.
> something like .. "that's OK! .. "  or "ok, you be ok"  ..

As its usage is more commonly American, perhaps 'have a nice day' might be
appropriate.

> shotly; "someting connect to the barber's cut.
>
> thank you !

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Alan Pemberton - 17 Jul 2007 18:01 GMT
> > Good morning,
> > some question about the word Barbershop  and other:
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> Neither.
> Barber-shop is the usual spelling.

Barbershop without the hyphen is the term reserved for the male-voice
quartets, or for their singing style, who allegedly sing/sang in the US
establishments.

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Richard Polhill - 18 Jul 2007 08:19 GMT
>>> Good morning,
>>> some question about the word Barbershop  and other:
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> quartets, or for their singing style, who allegedly sing/sang in the US
> establishments.

What utter twaddle.

Most dictionaries accept barbershop or barber-shop for both uses. The OED
lists only barber-shop [1], while Chambers lists only barbershop [2].

I think it's up to you.

It is, however, never barber'shop. The apostrophe can either indicate omitted
letters but there is none, or the possessive, but that would be barber's shop.

[1]

barber-shop
    1. A shop where a barber's services may be had. Now chiefly N. Amer.

    2. attrib.

    b. Designating music of simple or ‘close’ harmony, esp. for a male vocal
quartet, or a musical ensemble playing or singing such music. Cf. barber's
music (see BARBER n. 3). colloq. (orig. U.S.).

Oxford English Dictionary

[2]

barbershop noun 1 a type of singing in which usually four men sing in close
harmony without musical accompaniment. 2 the premises in which a barber works.

Chambers 21st Century Dictionary
FCS - 28 Jul 2007 04:17 GMT
> > Good morning,
> > some question about the word Barbershop  and other:
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> Neither.
> Barber-shop is the usual spelling.

It might help if you checked a source. The
Concise OED offers forth:

barbershop * n. a popular style of close harmony
singing, typically for four male voices.
- ORIGIN from the former custom of passing time
in a barber's shop by harmonizing to a lute or
guitar.

I suspect this is a troll (which I still maintain
I am not, I am merely using a pseudonym I adopted
a number of years ago to try to prevent cyberstalking)
but that I have attracted as my hair is long, I play
fretted stringed instruments and there's a strong
skinhead culture in my home town.

All these factoids about myself are available in
the public domain.

> If you wished to add an apostrophe, you would need an additional 's' as in
> barber's shop.

If we are talking about the shop itself I agree.

If we are talking about the, generally unaccompanied
singing style, I stick with the OED.

> > 2_ I'm looking (working as a copy)  for the common words that the
> > barber  use to said  after the cut.
> > something like .. "that's OK! .. "  or "ok, you be ok"  ..

Well, yes, at risk of being labelled a classic
Freudian neurotic there's the obvious one from
the days the Great British nobility used to slip
off down to Brighton on the Railways for weekend
of sordid fun with a mistress or harlot.

That would be: "something for the weekend, sir?"

Odd how this post shows up a fortnight or so
after the smoking-in-public-places ban kicked
in here, which THE TIMES used a photo' of a
trio of pole dancers stood scantily clad in
improbable heels-forced poses in a venue doorway
smoking cigarettes to illustrate...a week or so
after it came into force.

> As its usage is more commonly American, perhaps 'have a nice day' might be
> appropriate.
>
> > shotly; "someting connect to the barber's cut.
>
> > thank you !

I don't know whether I'm happy that the UK
culture hierarchy is attracting posts or
annoyed they're sad, fake, troll questions
when, from the tone of replies, it's abundantly
cleqar that genuine ones would not only be welcome
but answered courteously and, generally, knowledgably
(differences of opinions notwithstanding).

> Blue Sow

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Blue Sow - 28 Jul 2007 11:03 GMT
>>> Good morning,
>>> some question about the word Barbershop  and other:
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> It might help if you checked a source. The
> Concise OED offers forth:

It might help if you did.
My response was taken from the OED, not a smaller OED.
You can access the OED on line, including the completed sections of version 3,
bearing in mind it is quite expensive to buy.  The two-volume Shorter OED is
much more reasonably priced.

> I suspect this is a troll (which I still maintain
> I am not, I am merely using a pseudonym I adopted
> a number of years ago to try to prevent cyberstalking)

Would you care to describe what 'cyberstalking' means to you?

> All these factoids about myself are available in
> the public domain.

Factoids?  Too much Radio 2 in the afternoon?

>> If you wished to add an apostrophe, you would need an additional 's' as in
>> barber's shop.
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> If we are talking about the, generally unaccompanied
> singing style, I stick with the OED.

Again, my reply was taken from the OED.

 > Well, yes, at risk of being labelled a classic
> Freudian neurotic there's the obvious one from
> the days the Great British nobility used to slip
> off down to Brighton on the Railways for weekend
> of sordid fun with a mistress or harlot.
>
> That would be: "something for the weekend, sir?"

And you complain that I cast aspersions on your mental health.
LOL!

> Odd how this post shows up a fortnight or so
> after the smoking-in-public-places ban kicked
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> smoking cigarettes to illustrate...a week or so
> after it came into force.

How is this post related to your smoking ban or 'glamour' photography?
You are a bit late there with a smoking ban - nice to see you catching up.

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FCS - 29 Jul 2007 20:27 GMT
> >>> Good morning,
> >>> some question about the word Barbershop  and other:
[quoted text clipped - 53 lines]
>
> How is this post related to your smoking ban or 'glamour' photography?

A things barbers are traditionally held to say: Something for the
weekend, Sir?

Poster's alias: Sir Francesco Reffo (I know, the logic is only sir-
sir)

Origin of phrase: trips to Brighton

Location of dancers: Brighton

Time photo' was taken: weekend.

I identify a troll and you slag me off for it.

Quick point: actually "barbershop" is the more _usual_ spelling.

> You are a bit late there with a smoking ban - nice to see you catching up.

Posting date was shortly afterwards. I've partly been busy seeing how
the ban has been received in my locale.

> --
> Blue Sow

G DAEB
COPYRIGHT (C) 2007 SIPSTON
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Blue Sow - 30 Jul 2007 10:28 GMT
>> How is this post related to your smoking ban or 'glamour' photography?
>
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> Location of dancers: Brighton
> Time photo' was taken: weekend.

Ah I see.  Something of a flight of fancy then.
That dots can be joined is not in dispute.  Whether it is logical to do so in
the middle of an otherwise unrelated discussion is an interesting question which
might be addressed at some point.

> I identify a troll and you slag me off for it.

I don't think so.

> Quick point: actually "barbershop" is the more _usual_ spelling.

The OED does not think so.

>> You are a bit late there with a smoking ban - nice to see you catching up.
>
> Posting date was shortly afterwards. I've partly been busy seeing how
> the ban has been received in my locale.

I referred to the date your ban was implemented, not the date on which you posted.
Other countries, or in the case of California, people's republics, implemented
such bans long before England.

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