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EnglishPeter - 09 Oct 2007 19:41 GMT
I made this small test for you:

Choose the correct word (s) to complete each sentence.
1. Hi, Sue. .................... a good time?
A. Do you have B. Are you having C. You are having D. You have

2. .................... the question?
A. Do you understand B. You understand
C. Are you understanding

3. I'm sorry I .................... able to come to the meeting. I had another
commitment.
A. didn't be B. wasn't C. was

4. Libby took another biscuit while her mother .................... .
A. wasn't looking B. hadn't looked C. didn't look

5. Tom can't write. .................... his arm.
A. He's broken B. He broke C. He was breaking

6. It's only the second time she .................... a horse. She's very good at
it.
A. rode B. rides C. has ridden

7. a: "Mmm. Something smells good."
b: "I .................... cakes all morning."
A. 've made B. 'm making C. 've been making

8. When is the rain going to stop? It's been four months .................... some
sunshine.
A. that we don't have B. that we haven't had
C. that we didn't have D. since we had

9. We .................... chocolate when we were children.
A. haven't been eating B. didn't eat C. haven't eaten

10. a: "Maya's in hospital."
b: 'Is she? Oh, I .................... her some flowers."
A. 'm sending B. 'll send C. 'm going to send

------END----

I will try to put up more tests on the page later taday at
http://plainenglish.alldiscussion.net

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John Briggs - 09 Oct 2007 20:22 GMT
> I made this small test for you:

"little test" would be more idiomatic.  But I fear you have mistaken the
purpose of this newsgroup.
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Blue Sow - 09 Oct 2007 20:36 GMT
> I made this small test for you:

> I will try to put up more tests on the page later taday at
> http://plainenglish.alldiscussion.net

Try designing them so that only one of the multiple choice answers can be correct.

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John Briggs - 09 Oct 2007 20:55 GMT
>> I made this small test for you:
>
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> Try designing them so that only one of the multiple choice answers
> can be correct.

It depends what you mean by "correct".
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Blue Sow - 09 Oct 2007 22:53 GMT
>>> I made this small test for you:
>>> I will try to put up more tests on the page later taday at
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> It depends what you mean by "correct".

One presumes, when taking a test in which multiple choice answers are provided,
that some answers are deemed to be correct and others incorrect.  Otherwise, the
tester will not be able to determine if the participant has passed or failed the
test.  If the test does not measure anything, why do it?

That, essentially, is what is meant by 'correct' in the context of the topic of
this thread.

Funnily enough, that is what I meant by 'correct' too, given the context.
What, I wonder, did you think that I might mean?

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John Briggs - 10 Oct 2007 01:11 GMT
>>>> I made this small test for you:
>>>> I will try to put up more tests on the page later taday at
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
> Funnily enough, that is what I meant by 'correct' too, given the
> context. What, I wonder, did you think that I might mean?

Which questions do you think have more than one 'correct' answer?  That
could throw some light on what you might mean by 'correct'.
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Blue Sow - 10 Oct 2007 11:55 GMT
>>>>> I made this small test for you:
>>>>> I will try to put up more tests on the page later taday at
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
> Which questions do you think have more than one 'correct' answer?  That
> could throw some light on what you might mean by 'correct'.

Most of them could, in spoken English, have made use of more than one of the
possible answers and one of them could have used all of the possible answers and
still been recognisable English usage.

As I suggest above, 'correct' in this context means providing an answer to the
test that gains a tick rather than a cross from the person marking the test.
For that reason, only one should be deemed to be correct, not any or all of them.

If you are trying to draw me into some debate about an imaginary 'correct
English usage' then you should know that it isn't going to happen.

I have explained at least twice what the word 'correct' means when applied to
test answers.  If you feel there is further room for debate on that, I suggest
you check with your dictionary first (-:

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John Briggs - 10 Oct 2007 14:08 GMT
>>>>>> I made this small test for you:
>>>>>> I will try to put up more tests on the page later taday at
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> of the possible answers and one of them could have used all of the
> possible answers and still been recognisable English usage.

That is not 'correct' :-)

[The questioner is looking for idiomatic usage which is grammatically
correct]
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Blue Sow - 10 Oct 2007 22:03 GMT
>>>>>>> I made this small test for you:
>>>>>>> I will try to put up more tests on the page later taday at
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
>
> That is not 'correct' :-)

No.  The answer that obtains the tick is correct (no quotes needed).

> [The questioner is looking for idiomatic usage which is grammatically
> correct]

If you think so.

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Einde O'Callaghan - 10 Oct 2007 22:48 GMT
Blue Sow schrieb:

>>>>>>>> I made this small test for you:
>>>>>>>> I will try to put up more tests on the page later taday at
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>
> If you think so.

Since the header suggests that this is a test appropriate for people
taking the Cambridge Certificate of Advanced English examination I would
suggest that this is the only possible interpretation.

Einde O'Callaghan
Blue Sow - 11 Oct 2007 12:22 GMT
> Blue Sow schrieb:

>> If you think so.
>>
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>
> Einde O'Callaghan

Regrettably, there is no such header on the original post that I can see here,
otherwise I would not have mentioned it.

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Einde O'Callaghan - 11 Oct 2007 14:13 GMT
Blue Sow schrieb:

>> Blue Sow schrieb:
>
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> Regrettably, there is no such header on the original post that I can see
> here, otherwise I would not have mentioned it.

I don't know what you are using to read this thread, but I'm using
Mozilla Thunderbird and the subject line says quite clearly "re: CAE Test".

Regards, Einde O'Callaghan

P.S. I suggest you find some way of reading newsgroups that allows you
to see the subject line.
Tony Mountifield - 10 Oct 2007 08:44 GMT
> > I made this small test for you:
>
> > I will try to put up more tests on the page later taday at
> > http://plainenglish.alldiscussion.net
>
> Try designing them so that only one of the multiple choice answers can be correct.

In each question, there was in fact only one answer that was "natural"
English, as would be spoken by a native speaker.

However, several of the alternative answers were recognisable as constructs
frequently used by non-native speakers who are thinking according to the
grammatical rules of their mother tongue.

Cheers
Tony
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Molly Mockford - 10 Oct 2007 08:41 GMT
At 11:41:21 on Tue, 9 Oct 2007, EnglishPeter <koeberg@gmail.com> wrote
in <1191955281.217396.50200@v3g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>:

>Choose the correct word (s) to complete each sentence.
>1. Hi, Sue. .................... a good time?
>A. Do you have B. Are you having C. You are having D. You have

E. You vill haff

>2. .................... the question?
>A. Do you understand B. You understand
>C. Are you understanding

D.  Who cares about

>3. I'm sorry I .................... able to come to the meeting. I had another
>commitment.
>A. didn't be B. wasn't C. was

D. couldn't be bothered to

>4. Libby took another biscuit while her mother .................... .
>A. wasn't looking B. hadn't looked C. didn't look

D. smoked a joint

>5. Tom can't write. .................... his arm.
>A. He's broken B. He broke C. He was breaking

D.  Instead of a pen, he tries to use

>6. It's only the second time she .................... a horse. She's
>very good at
>it.
>A. rode B. rides C. has ridden

D.  has eaten

>7. a: "Mmm. Something smells good."
>b: "I .................... cakes all morning."
>A. 've made B. 'm making C. 've been making

D.  have been pigging out on

>8. When is the rain going to stop? It's been four months
>.................... some
>sunshine.
>A. that we don't have B. that we haven't had
>C. that we didn't have D. since we had

E. since anybody sang that frightful song about

>9. We .................... chocolate when we were children.
>A. haven't been eating B. didn't eat C. haven't eaten

D.  weren't allowed

>10. a: "Maya's in hospital."
>b: 'Is she? Oh, I .................... her some flowers."
>A. 'm sending B. 'll send C. 'm going to send

D  can't be arsed to send
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deserve neither liberty nor safety - Benjamin Franklin
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Blue Sow - 10 Oct 2007 11:46 GMT
> At 11:41:21 on Tue, 9 Oct 2007, EnglishPeter <koeberg@gmail.com> wrote
> in <1191955281.217396.50200@v3g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>:
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>
> D  can't be arsed to send

'Can't be asked' surely?
(-:

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Paul Burke - 10 Oct 2007 12:19 GMT
>>> 10. a: "Maya's in hospital."
>>> b: 'Is she? Oh, I .................... her some flowers."
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> 'Can't be asked' surely?
> (-:

Probably the origin of the phrase, via "arsked". I always liked the
phrase "knocked from arsehole to breakfasttime".
 
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