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ch.maestro@gmail.com - 10 Oct 2007 10:34 GMT
I am looking for an apt description of the expression on this child's
face:

http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s173/Maestro_50/baby.jpg

I don't think it is a pout, nor a scowl. "Unhappy" is too generic.
What is it? Disgust?
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Maestro
Tony Mountifield - 10 Oct 2007 11:39 GMT
> I am looking for an apt description of the expression on this child's
> face:
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> I don't think it is a pout, nor a scowl. "Unhappy" is too generic.
> What is it? Disgust?

It looks like the baby has just been fed something extremely sour.
But I can't think of a single word to describe it.

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ch.maestro@gmail.com - 12 Oct 2007 04:02 GMT
On Oct 10, 12:39 pm, t...@softins.clara.co.uk (Tony Mountifield)
wrote:
> In article <1192008871.180608.275...@r29g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>,
>
>  <ch.maes...@gmail.com> wrote:
> It looks like the baby has just been fed something extremely sour.
> But I can't think of a single word to describe it.

I see that photobucket has blocked the full photo to which I linked.
Better so, perhaps, as it would distract from the child's face, which
is all that I am concerned about.

I have received another suggestion: constipation. Of course,
constipation is not a description for a facial expression but I can
easily imagine a constipated child, sitting on the pot and squeezing
hard, making that face. A grimace, then. "Grimace brought on by
constipation" as a caption for the picture. No, better just "grimace"
and leave it to the viewer to contemplate its cause, like with Mona
Lisa's smile, which has led to much speculation.

I can also imagine the grimace being caused by the child's having been
fed something unpleasant. More likely, much more, even, than
constipation. With constipation, the mouth would be different, I
think.

http://picasaweb.google.com/ch.maestro/Maestro/photo?authkey=iyRrknB7nxY#5120277
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Will people speculate about the cause of this grimace hundreds of
years hence, like people do today about Mona Lisa's smile? :)
Lisa-Marie Barth - 12 Oct 2007 13:29 GMT
ch.maestro@gmail.com schrieb:
> On Oct 10, 12:39 pm, t...@softins.clara.co.uk (Tony Mountifield)
> wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 25 lines]
> Will people speculate about the cause of this grimace hundreds of
> years hence, like people do today about Mona Lisa's smile? :)

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Molly Mockford - 13 Oct 2007 14:33 GMT
At 03:02:25 on Fri, 12 Oct 2007, ch.maestro@gmail.com wrote in
<1192158145.656412.72910@k35g2000prh.googlegroups.com>:

>I have received another suggestion: constipation. Of course,
>constipation is not a description for a facial expression but I can
>easily imagine a constipated child, sitting on the pot and squeezing
>hard, making that face.

I don't think a child of that age would squeeze and strain that hard,
not being old enough to know that it was expected to produce anything.
(In fact, a small child about to poo adopts a blank, inward-looking
facial expression;  those in the know can spot that expression and, if
necessary, have time to take swift action if the child is nappiless.)

>I can also imagine the grimace being caused by the child's having been
>fed something unpleasant. More likely, much more, even, than
>constipation. With constipation, the mouth would be different, I
>think.

Looked to me as though the child had bitten into a lemon.
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Peter Duncanson - 13 Oct 2007 15:26 GMT
>On Oct 10, 12:39 pm, t...@softins.clara.co.uk (Tony Mountifield)
>wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>Better so, perhaps, as it would distract from the child's face, which
>is all that I am concerned about.

I react differently to this removal of the full picture.

The original had the mother's breast on the left with the grimacing baby
on the right.

One possible interpretation is that the baby has recoiled from the
nipple and is grimacing at an unpleasant taste. Possibly the mother has
applied the *wrong* lotion.

Without the breast in the picture there is no way of knowing what the
baby may be responding to.

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John of Aix - 10 Oct 2007 11:45 GMT
> I am looking for an apt description of the expression on this child's
> face:
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> I don't think it is a pout, nor a scowl. "Unhappy" is too generic.
> What is it? Disgust?

Distaste?
Peter Duncanson - 10 Oct 2007 13:11 GMT
>> I am looking for an apt description of the expression on this child's
>> face:
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
>Distaste?

The expression appears to be a "grimace":
http://www.askoxford.com/concise_oed/grimace?view=uk

   grimace
   
   noun an ugly, twisted expression on a person's face, expressing
   disgust, pain, or wry amusement.

In this case I think the baby might have been showing disgust, annoyance
or distaste.

I think "wry amusement" is outside the repertoire of a baby.

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John of Aix - 10 Oct 2007 19:38 GMT
>>> I am looking for an apt description of the expression on this
>>> child's face:
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>
>    grimace

That's it. But as the OP asks further on, why?

>    noun an ugly, twisted expression on a person's face, expressing
>    disgust, pain, or wry amusement.
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> I think "wry amusement" is outside the repertoire of a baby.

Hmm, I'm not so sure.
Paul Burke - 10 Oct 2007 12:18 GMT
> I am looking for an apt description of the expression on this child's
> face:
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> I don't think it is a pout, nor a scowl. "Unhappy" is too generic.
> What is it? Disgust?

A grimace?
ch.maestro@gmail.com - 10 Oct 2007 13:01 GMT
> ch.maes...@gmail.com wrote:

> A grimace?

Looking at that face again I get the impression that the baby is
crying or about to cry, suffering some discomfort or pain.

I didn't want you to get distracted but now I give you the full
picture from which that face was cut out:

http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s173/Maestro_50/breast-feeding.jpg

Somebody -- outside this forum -- has suggested that some milk got
squirted into his eyes :)
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