What year will it be next year? I refer to the common era calendar,
although "other calendaring systems are available".
In the common era calendar, next year will of course be "2010". But my
question is: will we stick with the "noughties" habit where it will
(still) be said as "two thousand and ten", or will next year be the year
when we make the switch (and save our breaths) and it will be "twenty-ten"?
I'm absolutely sure that we will have switched to "twenty-twenty" by,
err, 2020, but for the next decade, I don't think it sounds any more or
less wrong either way (I'd probably go for "twenty-something" sooner,
rather than later, myself). I guess that usage in spoken media will
probably have considerable influence on popular usage. Do we know if
the BBC and Independent Tabloidvision News have 'style guides' on this
issue?

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Molly Mockford - 22 Nov 2009 20:02 GMT
At 17:46:43 on Sun, 22 Nov 2009, David M
<david@bogus.domain.dom.invalid> wrote in
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>In the common era calendar, next year will of course be "2010". But my
>question is: will we stick with the "noughties" habit where it will
>(still) be said as "two thousand and ten", or will next year be the year
>when we make the switch (and save our breaths) and it will be "twenty-ten"?
I was surprised by the invention of the "noughties"; I had pretty much
expected to follow the convention of the previous couple of centuries,
which was to refer to "in the year eight" or similar format, for
anything between "in the year ought" and about "in the year fifteen";
the point where the change occurred from the format "the year nn" to
just "nn" seems to have varied, although by "18" or "19" "the year"
appeared to have been dropped almost entirely, leaving just "in '18" or
similar.
But this is drawn from reading of fiction either written at the time, or
set in the time; nothing scholarly underlies it!
Personally, I suspect that in this particular century we will move from
"two thousand and nine" to "twenty-ten", and only arrive at the
short-format "in 21" in (surprise!) 2021 or later, because of the
possibility of confusion inherent in the use of "twenty".
Should I live so long.

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Mike Barnes - 22 Nov 2009 20:23 GMT
David M <david@bogus.domain.dom.invalid>:
>What year will it be next year? I refer to the common era calendar,
>although "other calendaring systems are available".
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>(still) be said as "two thousand and ten", or will next year be the year
>when we make the switch (and save our breaths) and it will be "twenty-ten"?
Some of us never had that "noughties" habit. Twenty-hundred, twenty-oh-
one, etc, for me. So twenty-ten it will be.
>I'm absolutely sure that we will have switched to "twenty-twenty" by,
>err, 2020, but for the next decade, I don't think it sounds any more or
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>the BBC and Independent Tabloidvision News have 'style guides' on this
>issue?
On BBC Radio Four I've heard both two-thousand-and-nine and twenty-oh-
nine. I've never heard a bald "oh-nine", though, and when I've tried it
on people it has caused the odd frown. I don't expect it to gain any
traction for at least another twelve years or so now.

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Tony Mountifield - 25 Nov 2009 16:27 GMT
> What year will it be next year? I refer to the common era calendar,
> although "other calendaring systems are available".
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> the BBC and Independent Tabloidvision News have 'style guides' on this
> issue?
I've noticed that when referring to the London Olympics, the most common
media usage seems to be the "twenty-twelve Olympics".
I expect it will be in transition for a year or two as habits change,
but I expect most people will revert to the twenty- usage.
Cheers
Tony

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David - 25 Mar 2010 13:15 GMT
......and on a similar note, what decade are we in?
We had the eighties, the nineties and the noughties, are we now in the tens
or is this decade called the teens even though we're not in the teens for
another three years?
Tony Mountifield - 25 Mar 2010 13:51 GMT
> ......and on a similar note, what decade are we in?
>
> We had the eighties, the nineties and the noughties, are we now in the tens
> or is this decade called the teens even though we're not in the teens for
> another three years?
Well if someone asked me what decade the First World War was in,
I would say the nineteen-tens, so I guess I would call the current
decade the twenty-tens.
Cheers
Tony

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