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Re: He doesn't give a damn about Needs Must Admiring the Best
| Don Phillipson | 02 Jan 2007 22:42 |
> "He must needs go that the Devil drives." > Shakespeare: All's Well That-Ends Well, i. 3. > > http://tinyurl.com/yxkprb Bravo ! Devoted for decades to the Oxford Book of Quotations, I need more practice on line.
 Signature Don Phillipson Carlsbad Springs (Ottawa, Canada)
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| Marius Hancu | 02 Jan 2007 19:31 |
> The problem is that "Needs Must" > is a recognized proverb, a truncated form of [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > conformity is enforced by circumstances, like it > or not. Well, I've found it in this reference:
----------- Needs must when the Devil Drives.
The French say: "Il faut marcher quand le diable est aux trousses;" and the Italians say: "Bisogna andare, quando il diavolo ? vella coda."
If I must, I must.
"He must needs go that the Devil drives." Shakespeare: All's Well That-Ends Well, i. 3.
http://tinyurl.com/yxkprb -----------
> But the five words "Needs Must Admiring the Best" > are not recognized as a single proverbial expression. Thanks anyway. Marius Hancu
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| Don Phillipson | 02 Jan 2007 14:31 |
> ------ > . . . He doesn't give a damn, for the moment, about Getting [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > All the King's Men, by Robert Penn Warren, p. 336 > ------ The text makes plain these are two cliches (two official criteria) and not a typographical error for (1) Getting Ahead (2) Needs Must, (3) Admiring the Best.
The problem is that "Needs Must" is a recognized proverb, a truncated form of "Needs must when the Devil drives." This cannot be traced (by me) to any poem or similar source of proverbial expressions. It is a "nanny" expression, i.e. the sort of maxim a (lower class) nurse would say to (middle class) children to reinforce adult authority, confirming that conformity is enforced by circumstances, like it or not.
But the five words "Needs Must Admiring the Best" are not recognized as a single proverbial expression. It looks like more sloppy writing by RPW.
 Signature Don Phillipson Carlsbad Springs (Ottawa, Canada)
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| Marius Hancu | 02 Jan 2007 01:33 |
Hello:
Happy New Year 2007, everyone!
I understand that "Needs Must Admiring the Best" means something like "of necessity admiring the best," correct?
------ The Friend of Your Youth is the only friend that you will ever have, for he hasn't the slightest concern with calculating his interest or your virtue. He doesn't give a damn, for the moment, about Getting Ahead and Needs Must Admiring the Best, the two official criteria in adult friendships, and when the boring stranger appears, he puts out his hand and smiles (not really seeing your face), saying, "Well, Jack, damned glad you came, come on in, boy!"
All the King's Men, by Robert Penn Warren, p. 336 ------
Thanks. Marius Hancu
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